Where Are The Miree Backers Now?

[Deputy Nutz]

I think that scary Rat Trap that appeared at the top of the index page is gonna cool things down. Just like the beat cop walking down the street, thumping his nightstick in his hand.

Of course the biggest A-holes are the moderators, that could be a problem.

Or maybe not, sometimes you need cops who are A-holes.

I am offended I am not even a moderator anymore.

[LEWCWA]

This is stupid! I agree with the blah blah blah guy! On another note I thought the baby crying was sorta funny. bfd quite acting like a bunch of little bitches!

[ZachMN]

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named-

I love statements like that!! Makes my day!




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[the_idle_threat]

[the_idle_threat]

I was one of those who said we shouldn't worry about the fullback position despite our "failure" to sign Griffith. I maintain that position.

This confidence has never been derived from any kind of faith in Brandon Miree. A year ago or so when he was first picked up, I noted that he is injury-prone and may not be very dependable as a long-term answer.

My confidence stems from the fact that it's frickin' fullback, people---not quarterback. Definitely not rocket science. Miree was plugged into the system and was an immediate improvement over the guys we already had, including Vonta Leach who's now a starter elsewhere. And Miree isn't even all that good. I don't see any reason why this position should be considered a big hole just because a rookie wins the job.

[Merlin]

Henderson's performance WASN'T there in 2006, which is why he is gone.

Henderson 2005: 30 receptions, 264 yards, 3 for 20+ yards, 13 for first down, 8 tackles/4 assists on special teams.

Henderson 2006: 12 receptions (previous lowest was 21), 62 yards (previous low was 168), 0 for 20+ yards, 3 for first down (previous low was 8). 2 tackles/1 assist on special teams.

He did not even win the starting FB job coming out of camp last year. Claiming someone has to post "clips" is ridiculous. Go back and look at the grade he got from McGinn...who looks at PLENTY of clips.

Anyone claiming that Henderson should still be in Green Bay is thinking foolishly.

Conveniently you forget that Henderson had his knee scoped and that was used as an excuse to keep him off of the active roster much of the season. Kneew scopes are a 2-3 week recovery at the most. So his numbers can't be used as a reason. If you don't remember, no one "won" the starting job because of this injury, Miree was handed it. In many of Henderson's seasons they brought in FB's to compete with him and sometimes he didn't get the nod but by the 2nd or 3rd game of the season he was back in there so that doesn't hold water either. McGinn has proven to be an idiot more times then not regardless of how many clips they guy has looked at. His "grades" are his opinions and many times not accurate. So I can dismiss his judgement based upon what I saw from Henderson last season.

I think it's foolish to dismiss a player simply because you have your facts wrong or you refuse to accept reality. 3T pushed Henderson out, period. The only reason he re-signed him was because the Vikings made him an offer. Henderson should have been given the opportunity to compete for the position. His skills may not have been what they were 10 years ago but he sure as hell wasn't as inconsistent as Miree. With Henderson, you knew what you were getting, a guy that does the job and does it well. We let him go why? Oh yeah, because McGinn gave him a bad grade. Your logic escapes me.

[MJZiggy]

I think it's foolish to dismiss a player simply because you have your facts wrong or you refuse to accept reality. 3T pushed Henderson out, period. The only reason he re-signed him was because the Vikings made him an offer. Henderson should have been given the opportunity to compete for the position. His skills may not have been what they were 10 years ago but he sure as hell wasn't as inconsistent as Miree. With Henderson, you knew what you were getting, a guy that does the job and does it well. We let him go why? Oh yeah, because McGinn gave him a bad grade. Your logic escapes me.

We let him go for the same reason that no one else has picked him up. It was time. He wasn't pushed out--it was time. If it weren't he'd be playing. He's an awesome guy and will make a hell of a broadcaster. I sincerely hope he replaces Theeesman sooner rather than later.

[PackerTimer]

I think it's foolish to dismiss a player simply because you have your facts wrong or you refuse to accept reality. 3T pushed Henderson out, period. The only reason he re-signed him was because the Vikings made him an offer. Henderson should have been given the opportunity to compete for the position. His skills may not have been what they were 10 years ago but he sure as hell wasn't as inconsistent as Miree. With Henderson, you knew what you were getting, a guy that does the job and does it well. We let him go why? Oh yeah, because McGinn gave him a bad grade. Your logic escapes me.

We let him go for the same reason that no one else has picked him up. It was time. He wasn't pushed out--it was time. If it weren't he'd be playing. He's an awesome guy and will make a hell of a broadcaster. I sincerely hope he replaces Theeesman sooner rather than later.

Agreed. The players we have at the FB position are more capable than William Henderson. Henderson was no longer effective and that is why he is gone. To say TT pushed him out is ridiculous.

[MJZiggy]

Hall is the starter now. I wonder which game he'll shine in and which he'll struggle with. Any ideas?

[Merlin]

He was no longer effective? WOW, just wow. Like I said, show me where? The guys we have now are more then capable? Of what? Getting injured?

[Partial]

Hall is the starter now. I wonder which game he'll shine in and which he'll struggle with. Any ideas?

He'll have a key role in our first game against the Eagles. If they blitz as often as they historically have, he can expect a few opportunities in dump off passes in the flat. Here's hoping he is ready to go. He looked very athletic in the highlight clips from Boise State, so I am confident he'll be fine.

[Partial]

He was no longer effective? WOW, just wow. Like I said, show me where? The guys we have now are more then capable? Of what? Getting injured?

Since TT is so dumb and all the other GMs are so smart, why is Henderson not on another roster let alone starting for someone else??!?!??

[woodbuck27]

I feel like this season's success (or failure for that matter) should annoint one of our forum's contingencies -- either the Turtle-haters or the Ted-supporters -- as the true and outright winner of this forum.

Therefore, if Green Bay ends up being successful or unsuccessful this year (and I will leave it to those of you that are polarized by Ted to determine what the definitions are for success and failure), one group should get to stay at Packerrats and the other should be shunned to wander the bandwidths of cyberspace in search of a new home.

I think at this point it's only reasonable to assume a solution such as the aformentioned will prove effective.

I only ask that the future ruling party take pity on those of us that have not yet made up our minds on the Great Packer Polarization and allow us to eke out a meager existence on this forum until such time that our true feelings on the subject have been determined.

This I humbly ask of ye all.

Awesome post Lafours. It's cool.

I sense that.

The contention bet. the for and against Ted Thompson for GM has reached some fever pitch, because it's a criticle season under his watch. It's the contention that he's lost in his position because there must be some TRUTH to that or it's a fact.I base that on the dedication and intelligence I see in those that are on the anti TT side.

I certainly respect and don't mean to undermine any poster at Packerrats. Just being a member here and a Packer fan bracets us as intelligent as a board.

This Packer forum as a whole has very polite people enjoying it. Any perceived tension is due to 'the fact' that the anti - TT PACKER FANS, that include me, are rightly in us frustrated PACKER FANS.

Why is that? Well it's too obbvious. TT did so little for us in a very real sense since 2006 ended to allow us to maintain some sense of real momentum for this season (2007).

His off season as our Packer GM could have been as well served by 'a Teddy Bear' !

Some of us claim that he didn't get it done and that is in my view very kind to TT. I have not sensed any form of hatred fr. Packer fans here. That is BS propaganda raised by people that have a false sense of pride. People who feel helpless in some manner or other and have decided to condemn posters here that are as justified too serve their observations as the Pro TT people. Unfortunately the anti-TT people here are clearly not only justified in their arguments but this season in my view will (again unfortunately) prove them correct about any TT deceits,incompetence or to be somewhat direct his stupidity (again based in his inexperience or inability to function as the Packer GM).

To read the posts of the TT supporters and their claims of people here that are Ted Thompson HATER's is an ovvious tactic on their behalf to act in a defensive posture, because they have no other course of argument to support Ted Thompson. It has to be obvious he tossed 2007 into the can.

This is a case of pride comes before shame.We all act that way as we come to maturity in our lives.Again to be fair both sides are stubborn in the stances against and for Ted Thompson.

What is the real deal here. We are PACKER fans and Rastak and we have a few Bear fans drop in quite regularly.

The bottom line should be obvious. To enjoy Green Bay Packer success in 2007.

I don't see that happening in 2007. TT should have enable just that. He may have (as I perceive it) left us weaker that we were last season or one where our SOS was much easier than it is in 2007.

For those of you who point your finger and exclaim HATRED. Take a HARD look at YOURSELVES before resorting to such SCULL TACTICS.

NOT supporting TT's style and manner as our GM in light of his off season doesn't translate to HATRED of Ted Thompson.

PLEASE smarten up !!

and PEACE OUT !

GO PACKERS !!

[PackerTimer]

He was no longer effective? WOW, just wow. Like I said, show me where? The guys we have now are more then capable? Of what? Getting injured?

Since TT is so dumb and all the other GMs are so smart, why is Henderson not on another roster let alone starting for someone else??!?!??

It's all a grand conspiracy that TT started to bring down Brett Farve and the Packers, while also costing himself a job.

[Carolina_Packer]

Does this post constitute a camp fight? Two a days, hell some of you post way more than that. I can understand the heat of training camp, the rough conditions, the uncertainty about position battles. It can get to you after while. I think it's good you guys found an outlet, but at the end of the day we are all a team! Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time to get drunk.