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  • #61
    Originally posted by PackerTimer
    Originally posted by Partial
    Originally posted by Merlin
    He was no longer effective? WOW, just wow. Like I said, show me where? The guys we have now are more then capable? Of what? Getting injured?
    Since TT is so dumb and all the other GMs are so smart, why is Henderson not on another roster let alone starting for someone else??!?!??
    It's all a grand conspiracy that TT started to bring down Brett Favre and the Packers, while also costing himself a job.
    YUP. YOU set yourself up for this.

    Poor Ole Ted's made himself 'the Patsy'.

    Every Packer fan must weigh it, and where it fits bear the shame.

    It's either that, or Ole Ted doesn't have a clue. Ted Thompson certainly fails us incredibly on offense, again this off season.

    Exibition 'A'.

    You need not look further back than this off season. He didn't even come out of the gates.

    No excuse is good enough for how he let the Packer Vets down over the past 2, now 3 years.

    A prediction:

    Watch in the future how Packer players bail on our team because it's too obvious that Ted Thompson lacks what we deserve as a GM.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Merlin
      He was no longer effective? WOW, just wow. Like I said, show me where?
      Originally posted by Merlin
      Conveniently you forget that Henderson had his knee scoped and that was used as an excuse to keep him off of the active roster much of the season. Kneew scopes are a 2-3 week recovery at the most.
      Lookie there! You answered your own question. Old guys take a lot longer to recover from injury and surgeries - even basic ones. Unless you have some kind of inside info on this grand conspiracy to keep him off the active roster, or even an explanation of your own delusions, you might want to focus less on such intangible thoughts and instead focus on something more grounded in reality.

      If you want proof of his ineffectiveness, I suggest watching some film of Henderson in his prime, when he was smashing backers and leading the RB through the hole. Then watch his later years, when he became mired down at the line, didn't get to his blocks, was pushed backward, and fell behind the guys he was supposed to be blocking for.

      He contributed a lot to the team, but suggesting he was good in his final years is a stretch. Suggesting he could still play today is foolishness.
      "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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      • #63
        Originally posted by woodbuck27
        Originally posted by LaFours
        I feel like this season's success (or failure for that matter) should annoint one of our forum's contingencies -- either the Turtle-haters or the Ted-supporters -- as the true and outright winner of this forum.

        Therefore, if Green Bay ends up being successful or unsuccessful this year (and I will leave it to those of you that are polarized by Ted to determine what the definitions are for success and failure), one group should get to stay at Packerrats and the other should be shunned to wander the bandwidths of cyberspace in search of a new home.

        I think at this point it's only reasonable to assume a solution such as the aformentioned will prove effective.

        I only ask that the future ruling party take pity on those of us that have not yet made up our minds on the Great Packer Polarization and allow us to eke out a meager existence on this forum until such time that our true feelings on the subject have been determined.

        This I humbly ask of ye all.
        Awesome post Lafours. It's cool.

        I sense that.

        The contention bet. the for and against Ted Thompson for GM has reached some fever pitch, because it's a criticle season under his watch. It's the contention that he's lost in his position because there must be some TRUTH to that or it's a fact.I base that on the dedication and intelligence I see in those that are on the anti TT side.

        I certainly respect and don't mean to undermine any poster at Packerrats. Just being a member here and a Packer fan bracets us as intelligent as a board.

        This Packer forum as a whole has very polite people enjoying it. Any perceived tension is due to 'the fact' that the anti - TT PACKER FANS, that include me, are rightly in us frustrated PACKER FANS.

        Why is that? Well it's too obbvious. TT did so little for us in a very real sense since 2006 ended to allow us to maintain some sense of real momentum for this season (2007).

        His off season as our Packer GM could have been as well served by 'a Teddy Bear' !

        Some of us claim that he didn't get it done and that is in my view very kind to TT. I have not sensed any form of hatred fr. Packer fans here. That is BS propaganda raised by people that have a false sense of pride. People who feel helpless in some manner or other and have decided to condemn posters here that are as justified too serve their observations as the Pro TT people. Unfortunately the anti-TT people here are clearly not only justified in their arguments but this season in my view will (again unfortunately) prove them correct about any TT deceits,incompetence or to be somewhat direct his stupidity (again based in his inexperience or inability to function as the Packer GM).

        To read the posts of the TT supporters and their claims of people here that are Ted Thompson HATER's is an ovvious tactic on their behalf to act in a defensive posture, because they have no other course of argument to support Ted Thompson. It has to be obvious he tossed 2007 into the can.

        This is a case of pride comes before shame.We all act that way as we come to maturity in our lives.Again to be fair both sides are stubborn in the stances against and for Ted Thompson.

        What is the real deal here. We are PACKER fans and Rastak and we have a few Bear fans drop in quite regularly.

        The bottom line should be obvious. To enjoy Green Bay Packer success in 2007.

        I don't see that happening in 2007. TT should have enable just that. He may have (as I perceive it) left us weaker that we were last season or one where our SOS was much easier than it is in 2007.

        For those of you who point your finger and exclaim HATRED. Take a HARD look at YOURSELVES before resorting to such SCULL TACTICS.

        NOT supporting TT's style and manner as our GM in light of his off season doesn't translate to HATRED of Ted Thompson.

        PLEASE smarten up !!

        and PEACE OUT !

        GO PACKERS !!
        I hear what you are saying Woody and have heard what you are saying for some time now.

        The problem I see with the Great Packer Polarization is that when I ask myself the "What's next?" question for both sides of the great divide, it doesn't look pretty for this great forum that you speak so highly of. If we do well this year, those in support of Ted have the ammunition to run you and your fellow anti-turtle advocates out of town rubbing your noses in the opinions you have staked yourselves to up to this point. If we do poorly this year, then you and your fellow advocates will have the ammunition to run the pro-Ted regime into the ground by shoving their ignorant kool-aid drinking dispositions back in their faces.

        In the meantime, some of us just want to understand the positive and negative advancements of this team in an effort to identify how the year will shape up, and somehow there is an expectation that we pledge our allegiance to one side or the other somewhere down the road (and the sooner the better).

        The reality is that this should never be about a GM and spare me the "TT made it about himself through his actions" routine. We've heard it to no end.

        It really has come to the point that each side of the great divide has cemeted their opinions to the point of no return. I for one am not looking forward to the inevitable split that this forum will have to endure to maintain its success as an informed packer forum for people of all opinions to enjoy.

        Woody, can you imagine yourself admitting that you were wrong about Ted if the season turns out to be successful? I'd venture to say that you cannot for the very same reasons that those in support of Ted could not if the season turns out to be a failure.

        For this reason, there is an rift on this forum that only maturity can cure.

        The sooner we all start to realize that the Packers are fun to watch (and even more fun to watch when they are winning) and that this is the reason we are on her discussing the merits of each move and non-move, the better.

        We definitely have some growing up to do.
        It feels like a koala bear just crapped a rainbow in my brain!!!

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        • #64
          I'm done with this. I'm so hateful.

          NOT !!!

          Let the 2007 season record speak for all YOU Packer fans that will go on supporting him no matter what.

          Bath in your pride and suffer the price.

          GO PACKERS !!
          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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          • #65
            Originally posted by LaFours
            Originally posted by woodbuck27
            Originally posted by LaFours
            I feel like this season's success (or failure for that matter) should annoint one of our forum's contingencies -- either the Turtle-haters or the Ted-supporters -- as the true and outright winner of this forum.

            Therefore, if Green Bay ends up being successful or unsuccessful this year (and I will leave it to those of you that are polarized by Ted to determine what the definitions are for success and failure), one group should get to stay at Packerrats and the other should be shunned to wander the bandwidths of cyberspace in search of a new home.

            I think at this point it's only reasonable to assume a solution such as the aformentioned will prove effective.

            I only ask that the future ruling party take pity on those of us that have not yet made up our minds on the Great Packer Polarization and allow us to eke out a meager existence on this forum until such time that our true feelings on the subject have been determined.

            This I humbly ask of ye all.
            Awesome post Lafours. It's cool.

            I sense that.

            The contention bet. the for and against Ted Thompson for GM has reached some fever pitch, because it's a criticle season under his watch. It's the contention that he's lost in his position because there must be some TRUTH to that or it's a fact.I base that on the dedication and intelligence I see in those that are on the anti TT side.

            I certainly respect and don't mean to undermine any poster at Packerrats. Just being a member here and a Packer fan bracets us as intelligent as a board.

            This Packer forum as a whole has very polite people enjoying it. Any perceived tension is due to 'the fact' that the anti - TT PACKER FANS, that include me, are rightly in us frustrated PACKER FANS.

            Why is that? Well it's too obbvious. TT did so little for us in a very real sense since 2006 ended to allow us to maintain some sense of real momentum for this season (2007).

            His off season as our Packer GM could have been as well served by 'a Teddy Bear' !

            Some of us claim that he didn't get it done and that is in my view very kind to TT. I have not sensed any form of hatred fr. Packer fans here. That is BS propaganda raised by people that have a false sense of pride. People who feel helpless in some manner or other and have decided to condemn posters here that are as justified too serve their observations as the Pro TT people. Unfortunately the anti-TT people here are clearly not only justified in their arguments but this season in my view will (again unfortunately) prove them correct about any TT deceits,incompetence or to be somewhat direct his stupidity (again based in his inexperience or inability to function as the Packer GM).

            To read the posts of the TT supporters and their claims of people here that are Ted Thompson HATER's is an ovvious tactic on their behalf to act in a defensive posture, because they have no other course of argument to support Ted Thompson. It has to be obvious he tossed 2007 into the can.

            This is a case of pride comes before shame.We all act that way as we come to maturity in our lives.Again to be fair both sides are stubborn in the stances against and for Ted Thompson.

            What is the real deal here. We are PACKER fans and Rastak and we have a few Bear fans drop in quite regularly.

            The bottom line should be obvious. To enjoy Green Bay Packer success in 2007.

            I don't see that happening in 2007. TT should have enable just that. He may have (as I perceive it) left us weaker that we were last season or one where our SOS was much easier than it is in 2007.

            For those of you who point your finger and exclaim HATRED. Take a HARD look at YOURSELVES before resorting to such SCULL TACTICS.

            NOT supporting TT's style and manner as our GM in light of his off season doesn't translate to HATRED of Ted Thompson.

            PLEASE smarten up !!

            and PEACE OUT !

            GO PACKERS !!
            I hear what you are saying Woody and have heard what you are saying for some time now.

            The problem I see with the Great Packer Polarization is that when I ask myself the "What's next?" question for both sides of the great divide, it doesn't look pretty for this great forum that you speak so highly of. If we do well this year, those in support of Ted have the ammunition to run you and your fellow anti-turtle advocates out of town rubbing your noses in the opinions you have staked yourselves to up to this point. If we do poorly this year, then you and your fellow advocates will have the ammunition to run the pro-Ted regime into the ground by shoving their ignorant kool-aid drinking dispositions back in their faces.

            In the meantime, some of us just want to understand the positive and negative advancements of this team in an effort to identify how the year will shape up, and somehow there is an expectation that we pledge our allegiance to one side or the other somewhere down the road (and the sooner the better).

            The reality is that this should never be about a GM and spare me the "TT made it about himself through his actions" routine. We've heard it to no end.

            It really has come to the point that each side of the great divide has cemeted their opinions to the point of no return. I for one am not looking forward to the inevitable split that this forum will have to endure to maintain its success as an informed packer forum for people of all opinions to enjoy.

            Woody, can you imagine yourself admitting that you were wrong about Ted if the season turns out to be successful? I'd venture to say that you cannot for the very same reasons that those in support of Ted could not if the season turns out to be a failure.

            For this reason, there is an rift on this forum that only maturity can cure.

            The sooner we all start to realize that the Packers are fun to watch (and even more fun to watch when they are winning) and that this is the reason we are on her discussing the merits of each move and non-move, the better.

            We definitely have some growing up to do.
            I will swear before this fourm that I am not (personally) about being right, but rather about what is right for our team.

            I'm very mature, astute and passionate about what I deem is ala, ''something rotten in the state of Denmark''.

            There is absolutely no manner of hatred, as emotion in me for Ted Thompson, or any other human being that lives on this great earth.

            I'm just one of those Packer fans that is spent on the frustration that TT serves up as a steady diet for all Packer fans. A growing number of us can't stomach it as he sets it down.

            Why do we have to be cowtoe'd by members here that choose to stick their heads in the sand?

            This is an open forum. As long as we act polite and civil to all here one to the other, the democratic process will continue I expect.

            I'm a fair man, a just human person. I am all about winning for Packer fans and I refuse to be deluded. I don't aim to win things just to me. I'm not EGO driven. It's all about the state of our team.

            I don't toss sand in another's face. Too bad more of the PRO TT side wern't more as I am that way.

            I only promote towords a better direction.To proceed on a path where we all win.

            I stand on this with all my ability to use simple analysis.

            I BLAME GM TED THOMPSON FOR THE STATE WE ARE PRESENTLY FINDING OUR TEAM IN.

            We will not have a successful season because TT didn't enable that

            I see clearly what he's done to cause our failure in 2007. It doesn't take much to be where I am.

            What this claim of yours is:

            That depended on the outcome of this season. The PRO and ANTI TT Packer fans here must, one side or the other leave Packerrats is ludicrious.

            Why do I make that claim?

            Because we will fall short of 8-8, and the TT supporters will go on still making every excuse for his NOT ways. Thus it will just simply continue as a debate.

            For those that can't muster the parts for that debate simply don't read posts that concern that issue and if YOU DO STAY COMPLETEL:Y AWAY FROM IT.

            If YOU read either side and need to comment. Simply slant your post to support one side or the other.

            Don't whine. . . PLEASE.

            Don't read and weep !

            Be mature. PLEASE.

            GO PACKERS !
            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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            • #66
              Originally posted by "Woodbuck
              I BLAME GM TED THOMPSON FOR THE STATE WE ARE PRESENTLY FINDING OUR TEAM IN.
              And we've all heard it to death--over, and over, and over, and over and over ad nauseum. We have the team we have and none of us have the power to change the team we have. I personally plan to stand behind them. All of them. Even the ones that I'm not sure about right now. You know who they are. I've already told you. Yet I don't know how you feel about any of them (except Brett Favre and Donald Driver) for the upcoming season because all I've heard is complaining about what some dude in the office did or didn't do. I like you Woody, but this was likely the first post of yours that I've read in over a month (ok, I just skimmed it) and it's exactly the same stuff as was in the last post a month ago. I don't care one lick any more about TT's record and the offseason moves. I like our team and can't wait to watch them play.
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #67
                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                Originally posted by "Woodbuck
                I BLAME GM TED THOMPSON FOR THE STATE WE ARE PRESENTLY FINDING OUR TEAM IN.
                And we've all heard it to death--over, and over, and over, and over and over ad nauseum. We have the team we have and none of us have the power to change the team we have. I personally plan to stand behind them. All of them. Even the ones that I'm not sure about right now. You know who they are. I've already told you. Yet I don't know how you feel about any of them (except Brett Favre and Donald Driver) for the upcoming season because all I've heard is complaining about what some dude in the office did or didn't do. I like you Woody, but this was likely the first post of yours that I've read in over a month (ok, I just skimmed it) and it's exactly the same stuff as was in the last post a month ago. I don't care one lick any more about TT's record and the offseason moves. I like our team and can't wait to watch them play.
                Sure mj.

                Now you go ahead and be what you must be as I will for what I must be.

                FAIR ????
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by MJZiggy
                  Originally posted by Woodbuck
                  I BLAME GM TED THOMPSON FOR THE STATE WE ARE PRESENTLY FINDING OUR TEAM IN.
                  I like our team and can't wait to watch them play.
                  I love our team and absolutely cannot wait for the Eagles game to get fired up and get behind my team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Cheers, to the end of training camp and moving on to the next step of loving and supporting our team through thick and thin

                  THIS IS SERIOUSLY ME WALKING AROUND GOING ABOUT MY DAY

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by woodbuck27
                    Originally posted by MJZiggy
                    Originally posted by "Woodbuck
                    I BLAME GM TED THOMPSON FOR THE STATE WE ARE PRESENTLY FINDING OUR TEAM IN.
                    And we've all heard it to death--over, and over, and over, and over and over ad nauseum. We have the team we have and none of us have the power to change the team we have. I personally plan to stand behind them. All of them. Even the ones that I'm not sure about right now. You know who they are. I've already told you. Yet I don't know how you feel about any of them (except Brett Favre and Donald Driver) for the upcoming season because all I've heard is complaining about what some dude in the office did or didn't do. I like you Woody, but this was likely the first post of yours that I've read in over a month (ok, I just skimmed it) and it's exactly the same stuff as was in the last post a month ago. I don't care one lick any more about TT's record and the offseason moves. I like our team and can't wait to watch them play.
                    Sure mj.

                    Now you go ahead and be what you must be as I will for what I must be.

                    FAIR ????
                    As long as I don't hear the name Ted Thompson, TT 3T or whatever the hell name people have been using to fight about him, you can be whatever you want How 'bout that James Jones???

                    Partial, I'm with you!!! Let 'em play!!!!
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #70
                      I BLAME GM TED THOMPSON FOR THE STATE WE ARE PRESENTLY FINDING OUR TEAM IN.
                      Deeper at DL, CB, and LB than we have been in ten years?

                      Deeper at WR than we've been in several years (arguably deeper than Walker-Driver-Fergie)?

                      Weaker at RB and TE than we have been in years?

                      Meh, I'll take it. Give credit where credit is due, and point out weakness and shortcomings when it's due. Overall, not as bad as you make it seem. And not nearly as good as it could/ should be.

                      Our defense now may be as good as our offense was 2002-2004, i.e. top 7. And our O now is probably as bad as our D was then. So the question is, can our D now carry the O the way the O then carried the D? Time will tell. If it does, the team will have success. If not? Then 8-8 or so again.

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                      • #71
                        Where are the Miree backers, you ask?

                        Easy. Like most fans, we simply look around with a confused air, asking "What? What Miree backers? Yeah, who were those fools, anyway?"

                        At least that's what I do.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #72
                          Shit happens, Miree was a decent player last year but had some injuries, and this year with the stingers sucks, which leads to Korry Hall.

                          I asked about William Henderson earlier in pre-season, but to be honest if he had anything left in the tank, then why wasn't he picked up by another team?

                          I guess him and Gilbert Brown are still sitting by the phone waiting for that call from an NFL GM ready to put them into action.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Partial
                            THIS IS SERIOUSLY ME WALKING AROUND GOING ABOUT MY DAY
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJCjkgo-co
                            The old MNF opening with Hank was the best.

                            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by woodbuck27
                              ..........my view will (again unfortunately) prove them correct about any TT deceits,incompetence or to be somewhat direct his stupidity (again based in his inexperience or inability to function as the Packer GM).

                              Deceits? Imcompetence? Inability to function?


                              Read your own words Woody. It's not propoganda. It's not BS. It's not false pride - whatever that hell that is.

                              It's just my opinion. That you hate Ted.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by woodbuck27
                                I'm a fair man, a very just human person. I don't aim to win things just to me. I'm not EGO driven. I don't toss sand in another's face. Too bad more of the PRO TT side wern't more as I am that way.


                                You're right, we should all try to be more like you Woody.


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