I take it he sucked in this last exhibition, because from all accounts he's kicked well for most of camp.
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2 bad kicks out of an otherwise stellar off-season and he is inconsistent?Originally posted by PacknutYep. Way to inconsistent. He's gonna hurt us AGAIN this season.Originally posted by The LeaperMy concern is Jon Ryan, not Justin Harrell. Ryan is going to kill us with his inability to get hangtime and outkicking the coverage.
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He kicked a few other line drives as well. Go back and look at his punts...about 75% of the time they reach the return man with no defenders within 10 yards of him, either from a lack of hang time or because he is kicking it 60+ yards.Originally posted by Partial2 bad kicks out of an otherwise stellar off-season and he is inconsistent?
Either way, it makes it far easier for the defense to get a big return.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
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Glad to see SOMEONE is paying attention.Originally posted by The LeaperHe kicked a few other line drives as well. Go back and look at his punts...about 75% of the time they reach the return man with no defenders within 10 yards of him.Originally posted by Partial2 bad kicks out of an otherwise stellar off-season and he is inconsistent?
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I haven't seen very many pre-season games but I would imagine you haven't either being in Illi. His net yardage is quite good and from all accounts he has been a stellar punter. Jon Ryan is going to be fine. I see no reason to be concerned. It's not like he is the best punter in the league but he is far from the worst.Originally posted by PacknutGlad to see SOMEONE is paying attention.Originally posted by The LeaperHe kicked a few other line drives as well. Go back and look at his punts...about 75% of the time they reach the return man with no defenders within 10 yards of him.Originally posted by Partial2 bad kicks out of an otherwise stellar off-season and he is inconsistent?
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When you have directv and the NFL network, you see EVERYTHING my friend. It's all goes back to the same philosophy that now infects our team. Take a LB and make him a FB. Take a 3 step punter and make him a 2 step punter.Originally posted by PartialI haven't seen very many pre-season games but I would imagine you haven't either being in Illi. His net yardage is quite good and from all accounts he has been a stellar punter. Jon Ryan is going to be fine. I see no reason to be concerned. It's not like he is the best punter in the league but he is far from the worst.Originally posted by PacknutGlad to see SOMEONE is paying attention.Originally posted by The LeaperHe kicked a few other line drives as well. Go back and look at his punts...about 75% of the time they reach the return man with no defenders within 10 yards of him.Originally posted by Partial2 bad kicks out of an otherwise stellar off-season and he is inconsistent?
Sorry, but I'd rather have a guy that played 4 freaking years in college as a FB. I'd rather have a punter who's does'nt have to make MAJOR technical changes cause he figured out how to punt the CORRECT way in college.
For every 1 diamond in the rough that you do find, you'll waste time on 10 other guys trying to change them. If it was that easy EVERYONE would be doing it.
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Right because that punter from Ohio State that we drafted worked out so well...
I think Ryan is fine. I think refining the approach happens far much more than you'd believe.
Funny how Mr. Hall got brought up into this discussion when he hasn't done anything to question his ability as a solid starter this off-season.
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No need to panick on Harrell... if he's still playing like this at the beginning of next year, then I'll worry.
That said, he has been disappointing. There are reasons of course, but he's been getting handled pretty easily... you expect more from a 1st round pick.wist
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Refine the drop, may-be the angle but not the amount of freakin steps!!!!!Originally posted by PartialRight because that punter from Ohio State that we drafted worked out so well...
I think Ryan is fine. I think refining the approach happens far much more than you'd believe.
Funny how Mr. Hall got brought up into this discussion when he hasn't done anything to question his ability as a solid starter this off-season.
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He had his best outing Vs the Titans.
4 tackles - 3 solo and 1 assisted T. He may be coming of age.
He's certainly going to get his chances to show us what he has or not as the season progress's..
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Jamal Reynolds who was too small and didn't have enough speed to be a speed rusher in this league reminds you of Harrell who has prototypical size and athleticism to play his position at a high level someday?Originally posted by oregonpackfanI remain very skeptical about Harrell. He reminds me of a Jamaal Reynolds type of # 1 draft pick.
I predict Harrell will sit on the bench this year and all of 2008. By the fall of 2009, he will not make the final cut and will be out of the NFL.
Harrell's problem is that his conditioning and football strength aren't what they should be, since he's been out of the game for a year but both have been steadily improving as we watched during the preseason. Strength and conditioning are things you can, and are expected to improve. Reynold's problem was that he was small and slow, those aren't things you can improve.</delurk>
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Originally posted by oregonpackfanI remain very skeptical about Harrell. He reminds me of a Jamaal Reynolds type of # 1 draft pick.
I predict Harrell will sit on the bench this year and all of 2008. By the fall of 2009, he will not make the final cut and will be out of the NFL.
wow, you are kidding me right? I'm glad you are not making GM-type decisions, or else we'd be in serious trouble. Hey, you know what? Corey Williams took 3 years to develop, why didn't we write him off when he was looking rough during his first season? Not to mention Williams didn't even have the collegiate career that Harrell did, not close."I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
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