Packers acquired RB Ryan Grant from the Giants for an undisc

[RashanGary]

I'm OK with desperation moves; they scream of Win Now Baby.

Only problem is that yesterdays WIN NOW BABY moves are 2004's 4th and 26.

[Merlin]

When TT drafted some guy named James Jones in the third round, lot of us here wondered what the hell he was doing. Now that pick looks as if it may pan out. So I'm willing to give TT the benefit of the doubt. Besides, if it doesn't work out, not much is lost. Clearly TT and the scouts like this guy.

Clearly 3T and the scouts liked a lot of players. Not so clear is what he brings to the team. If he was their #5 then either that says our roster sucks or he is now our what? #4 #5?

I agree. I'm not a big fan of this move but if he's a player and he makes Herron expendable after he gets healthy then I'm OK with it.

What is your beef with Herron? What has he not done that he has been asked to do? Just because you don't like a guy doesn't mean he should be cut. Herron has been the one lone RB the past two seasons + who didn't get injured and produced on the field when called upon to do so. You don't cut players like Herron unless you damn sure have someone better. Right now, a rookie is not better the Herron regardless of what you may think. You can't put NFL experience into someone who doesn't have it. Morency isn't even an option right now. We should have kept White because I am not convinced this guy is any better then he was.

[Merlin]

Look, I love how you just figure all this stuff out... One signing doesn't make the guy BOLD. It doesn't make him anything. He traded for a running back that has promise but has proved very little. It's exactly what you'd expect him to do. Other than trading a draft choice for a player, and that's the FIRST time he's done that, its pretty predictable for ole' Ted.

As to the move, you're right, I like it. It doesn't make Ted bold though. Not even close. We'll see what happens.

Retailguy, you've been stomping your feet and throwing out sarcastic remarks about how TT would never part with his draft picks all off season and now your calling this predictable like you could have seen it coming. Trust me, RG, I could go dig up a about 10 comments by you that would completely irrealify you right now but we both know that I don't need to. You are being completely stubborn and unreasonable now. The move is looking better and better the more I read about the guy and he did exactly what you thought he would never do. Just admit it and move on. Bold or not, it was a move designed to help right now and you never expected that (again, I could dig all of this up but I don't need to and you know it)

And I could dig up post after post of your bias towards ANYTHING 3T does. You can read all you want about the guy, have you seen him play? I didn't think so as I am sure many of us haven't. Scouting reports that are posted are all fine and dandy but does it translate to the field? From what I have been reading, there is nothing there that says he should be on the roster and Herron cut (per your previous asinine statement). He looks to be a running back with the same crap written about him as a lot of running backs. This was not a bold move in the sense that 3T is trying to help us WIN NOW. This was an ego move by 3T because I am sure there is someone out there 10 times better than this guy that we ignored because 3T had a hard on for him. I don't trust 3T or our scouts after the Harrell pick. Just because another team was thinking on drafting the guy doesn't mean we should have taken him. He was not the BPA nor was Rodgers when he was selected. But that's all we hear is how they were both the BPA when 3T drafted them and now because he gav up a draft pick you think it WAS bold? Um no, more like stupid. More then likely the guy could have been gotten off the wire.

Get the hell off of people who disagree with you. It's clear your bias is so far out there for 3T it isn't even funny. We get it, 3T is God, yadda yadda yadda. As a fan I find it reprehensible that ANYONE in their right mind would have such a woody for 3T. He has done some things right and don't some things wrong. And the things he has done wrong are what have cost us games. "I like who we have here" "I hope we are a winner". No thanks, I will pin my hopes on the team and McCarthy and not the guy who has no clue that there is more then defense on a team.

[Deputy Nutz]

I have never been a big fan of Herron, I don't like his blocking and blitz pickup and I think he is slow. He did show good effort getting the ball into the endzone. I just think he is a guy and I think White could have easily replaced him. I think this guy could pick up the playbook and also replace Herron without missing a beat

[RashanGary]

Welcome to the conversation Merlin. I was just thinking that the only thing missing was complete fucking moronic blabber and now you've added it for us. You get the missing link award for the night.

Seriously man, what has Herron done besides personifying mediocrity to make you think he is a valuable piece to this team? God damn, I'm trying to chill out and love everyone but how can I when you post this shit

[Merlin]

Welcome to the conversation Merlin. I was just thinking that the only thing missing was complete fucking moronic blabber and now you've added it for us. You get the missing link award for the night.

Seriously man, what has Herron done besides personifying mediocrity to make you think he is a valuable piece to this team? God damn, I'm trying to chill out and love everyone but how can I when you post this shit

Nice, what I post is "fucking moronic blabber"? How does that chill out and "love" anyone? Can you explain that?

With that said, I never said Herron was all world. But the guy does his job when asked to do it. You have ZERO reason to believe this guy will be better, absolutely none. With the exception of the opinion of a sports writer. And I am spewing "fucking moronic blabber"?

Have a nice day jackass.

[swede]

Here's to hoping the new kid works out!

And Justin, "irrealify" is a great new word. Apparently it means to provide illumination that undermines the credibility of another.

I'm in a great mood tonight. I have no arguments with my fellow men and I share the love a fine football team with all of you.



"Can't we all just get along?"

[Merlin]

Swede you cheeky bastard, how the hell ya been?

[RashanGary]

And Justin, "irrealify" is a great new word. Apparently it means to provide illumination that undermines the credibility of another.

I was going to qualify that word by saying I invented it. I couldn't do it because: one, it took away from the flow of the paragraph and two, it would have taken away the oppertunity for someone like you to have fun with it You're welcome by the way

[swede]

Fine, thanks!

I think the Badger win and yesterday's win by the hometown HS team have me in a good. mood.

I've been reading over the cuts.

I thought Alcorn was a surprise cut at TE. Either he was a blocking liability or he just got caught up in numbers.

[Merlin]

I wasn't too high Alcorn him but I thought he would make the team. It could be that we cut him to see who else was cut and then sign him to the PS or something. I am waiting for Rayner to get picked up, that had to be a tough call. I would have kept both of em and see how the season went. I am confident in Crosby and will be until November, then I will hold my breath and hope he doesn't choke. If Franks keeps playing the way he has, we don't need another TE!

[swede]

The Packers GM, I forget what his name is, would have taken quite a bit of heat for keeping two kickers.

Do you think the new RB has a chance to be good, or are you down on that move, Merlin?

[RashanGary]

I'm just screwin around Merlin. Herron has been pretty solid. You always want to replace him though, IMO.

There were times that I thought maybe he wsa going to take that next step adn I do think he improved his explosiveness this year but from none to very little just wasn't enough.

Your tone is typically very strong so I felt like giving it back strong.

I see what you mean though, this offense needs more guys how KNOW what is going on, esspecially on 3rd downs when Brett can get killed.

In the end though, I think replacing Herron with a guy who is more of a threat is a good thing.

[Merlin]

The Packers GM, I forget what his name is, would have taken quite a bit of heat for keeping two kickers.

Do you think the new RB has a chance to be good, or are you down on that move, Merlin?

Not down on it, I knew we would do something. I didn't think we would use a draft pick though. It's possible he would have been available anyway. Although I did read something where he was quoted as saying that he was told made the Giants roster this season so maybe that's the reason for the draft pick. I really don't know a lot about the guy. We seem to bring in RB's on a rotating basis but since we used a draft pick , you have to believe the guy is going to be around for awhile.

[swede]

I really like Herron as the career backup. Hard worker. No ego. Competent, apparently in understanding how to pick up blitzes and protect the QB.

We're in trouble if he's starting more than a couple games imo.