Would Sherman have drafted Hawk at #5?

[MJZiggy]

You're right about the year. Oops. How are you going to get Mike Wahle to sign the contract after you cut him?

Hand Wahle a $12 M SB. That or wait til Carolina come into the picture and then outbid them.

What if he doesn't care that you outbid them and signs with Carolina anyway?

Where does the $12 mil come from?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You're right about the year. Oops. How are you going to get Mike Wahle to sign the contract after you cut him?

Hand Wahle a $12 M SB. That or wait til Carolina come into the picture and then outbid them.

What if he doesn't care that you outbid them and signs with Carolina anyway?

Where does the $12 mil come from?

MJ you need to read my achieves. But i will repeat the answers to your questions anyway.

The reason Wahle left Pack for Carolina is for more money. Every JSO article ive read states that Pack couldve paid wahle his 6 mil roster bonus but he would likely test the FA market because he could get more money. Just because Wahle is a FA, doesnt mean he couldnt sign with the Pack. 12 Mil in SB would be more than the 11.5 M Carolina gave him.

[MJZiggy]

Assuming he's willing to take it, where does the money come from?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Assuming he's willing to take it, where does the money come from?

Revenue sharing, TV contracts, money pool; whatever the NFL/Packers calls it. There's plenty of money to go around, especally when networks are paying the NFL billions of dollars in rights fees.

[MJZiggy]

We were kissing the cap. Where do you get the cap room?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

We were kissing the cap. Where do you get the cap room?

Cutting Wahle and Sharper resulted in Pack having a surplus of $7.5 M. Franks signing saved the Pack about $2 M. Cutting Hunt before TC would give the Pack about 1.8M more. Total: Approx.$11.3-4 Mil Rookie pool = 7.3 Mil to spend.

Resign Wahle and Sharper to contract friendly contracts.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Remember, Sherman was able to resign Diggs and KGB to new contracts with aprox $3M at the start of the FA period, KGB got a 13 M SB.

[OS PA]

Remember, Sherman was able to resign Diggs and KGB to new contracts with aprox $3M at the start of the FA period, KGB got a 13 M SB.

Too bad Diggs and KGB were already under contract, if i'm not correct please tell me so, but Sharper and Wahle are under contracts for other teams, and can not be offered contracts to play for us.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Remember, Sherman was able to resign Diggs and KGB to new contracts with aprox $3M at the start of the FA period, KGB got a 13 M SB.

Too bad Diggs and KGB were already under contract, if i'm not correct please tell me so, but Sharper and Wahle are under contracts for other teams, and can not be offered contracts to play for us.

When they were cut and became FAs, they can sign with any team in the NFL, including the Packers.

For a more current example, see how St. Louis released Iassic Bruce to help their cap situation and then immediately re-signed him.

[MJZiggy]

Except that he didn't want to sign here...

[mraynrand]

"Except that he didn't want to sign here..."

Diggs didn't 'want' to dign with GB either - until the money was right. Wave 12 mil in front of Wahle's face, promise him the cover on the Packer Magazine, and he would have signed for sure.

Whale made the pro bowl because of his new contract. he actually played worse for Carolina than for the Pack. This happens a lot - Adam Timmerman had the same thing happen to him - he got the big press and the big FA contract so everyone assumed he must be good.

Wahle would have been a happy camper in GB with his 12 mil SB (that would have been pro-rated over his contract period).

TT could have signed Wahle if he wanted to - it was possible. It was the one major screw-up of his GM tenure so far.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Except that he didn't want to sign here...

Then he didnt want to play for Thompson. Then thompson is like a college coach who fails to recruit a top prospect. There are environmental factors, but if you are really a good GM, you should be able to lure certain players with exceptional talent to your team. You cant get everyone but you should be able to get least get 3 with $35Mil.

I'm goin to take a nap. Been up all nite.

[GrnBay007]

Future.......lets focus on the future peeps!!

[Patler]

"Except that he didn't want to sign here..."

Diggs didn't 'want' to dign with GB either - until the money was right. Wave 12 mil in front of Wahle's face, promise him the cover on the Packer Magazine, and he would have signed for sure.

Whale made the pro bowl because of his new contract. he actually played worse for Carolina than for the Pack. This happens a lot - Adam Timmerman had the same thing happen to him - he got the big press and the big FA contract so everyone assumed he must be good.

Wahle would have been a happy camper in GB with his 12 mil SB (that would have been pro-rated over his contract period).

TT could have signed Wahle if he wanted to - it was possible. It was the one major screw-up of his GM tenure so far.

Wasn't Diggs a Restricted Free Agent? GB matched the Lions offer. In the newspapers, Diggs openly begged GB not to match and let him leave. I don't believe Diggs had any option but to return to GB.

[MadtownPacker]

Very good point Tank about Sherman likely doing whatever to keep walker. I think he truly loved his players and sometimes that hurt him. Business needs to be seperated from friendships.