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  • #16
    with the depth and the way our d-line is playing do you think collin cole and corey williams will be resigned in the offseason?
    Formerly known as nbarnett56

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MasonCrosby
      with the depth and the way our d-line is playing do you think collin cole and corey williams will be resigned in the offseason?
      My guess would be that they won't want to pay for both, but a lot of that depends on Harrell. I think the Packer organization is very worried that a number one draft pick would look worse than Muir in pre-season. Harrell is on the squad for one reason only - he was a first round draft pick. If he somehow improves, then Cole or Williams become expendable. But overall, I think the defensive scheme works better with more tackles. It will be interesting to see whether some teams go no-huddle to stop the shuffling of D-linemen that the Packers really like to do.

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      • #18
        funny stuff!!! keep it coming.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gbgary
          funny stuff!!! keep it coming.
          Give me a question and I'll answer it - after my nap, of course.

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          • #20
            Is this offense ever gonna get it together?
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #21
              Originally posted by the_idle_threat
              Originally posted by retailguy
              Originally posted by the_idle_threat
              Cleft, our offense was clearly in poor shape today---possibly even in worse shape than your liver. Is Vernand Morency the key to our future as a top 5 offense, or is it Greg Jennings?
              I'll try this one. I think its Junius Coston. :P
              An intriguing possibility ...

              What the hell---Send him deep down the seam and see what happens!
              Probabaly gets deep quicker than Bubba!!
              My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                Is this offense ever gonna get it together?
                I think so, but it might be a few years. The cut block scheme might not fit Tauscher and Clifton and so far, the jury on Thompson's ability to bring in O-line talent is still out. The O is either very old (Driver Bubba Clifton Tauscher, Favre) or very young. It's an odd mix.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by hurleyfan
                  Originally posted by the_idle_threat
                  Originally posted by retailguy
                  Originally posted by the_idle_threat
                  Cleft, our offense was clearly in poor shape today---possibly even in worse shape than your liver. Is Vernand Morency the key to our future as a top 5 offense, or is it Greg Jennings?
                  I'll try this one. I think its Junius Coston. :P
                  An intriguing possibility ...

                  What the hell---Send him deep down the seam and see what happens!
                  Probabaly gets deep quicker than Bubba!!
                  This is an interesting point. One wonders what happened to the middle of the field. Loss of David Martin and/or fear of Dawkins and the Blitz scheme must be contributing factors. Hmmm - Packers need some other offensive threat and they need better pass pro with lss guys in the backfield. You have to wonder whether guys were getting separation when you see the INT to Bubba running a weak route and Martin not really competing for a ball that was right on his fingers.

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                  • #24
                    Cleft,

                    Safety Atari Bigby seemed to play reasonably well for his first career start. However, his hit on teammate Al Harris was nearly disastrous. Two questions:

                    1. If you were the head coach, would you have some kind of punishment in store for Bigby, and if so, what would it be?

                    2. Why is Al Harris even on the field as a gunner on the punt cover unit in the first place?
                    "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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                    • #25
                      Cleft,

                      Now that the Packers have beaten an NFC power, do you feel like a washed-up idiot for picking the Packers to go 4-12?
                      I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by superfan
                        Cleft,

                        Safety Atari Bigby seemed to play reasonably well for his first career start. However, his hit on teammate Al Harris was nearly disastrous. Two questions:

                        1. If you were the head coach, would you have some kind of punishment in store for Bigby, and if so, what would it be?

                        2. Why is Al Harris even on the field as a gunner on the punt cover unit in the first place?
                        I'll answer the second first. McCarthy should be flogged for having Al Harris out on the field on special teams. Harris, Woodson and Favre are the trio of very old valuable guys that can't afford to be hurt. Perhaps it's a failing of Thompson or just being uncomfortable with the other guys that allows Woodson to return punts and Harris to run on teams. Still, special teams lost the game for Philly today, so there is something to be said for risking your best guys. That's a wishy-washy answer, but when you're semi-retired and making 2.26 an hour plus tips, you stop caring.

                        Bigby wasn't at fault. The defense played extemely well and you don't want to punish any of them.

                        BTW, Harris agrees with me and you saying "I'm through with special teams, unless coach (McCarthy) tells me, 'Al, you've got to get out there,'"

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Joemailman
                          Cleft,

                          Now that the Packers have beaten an NFC power, do you feel like a washed-up idiot for picking the Packers to go 4-12?
                          I feel washed up, but I don't feel like an idiot. The Packers still have to win 3 more to get to four and Philly may not be an NFC power. The Packers offense had one drive the entire game and they got lucky (and played well) on special teams. They have a lot to be concerned about.

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                          • #28
                            Cleft,

                            Since Wynn has a reputation of not being able to catch a cold, why did they use him as a third down back today, and frequently put him in motion or split him out wide? I can't imagine Favre throwing him a pass, except for that little shot put job that Wynn turned into a nice gain.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              Cleft,

                              Since Wynn has a reputation of not being able to catch a cold, why did they use him as a third down back today, and frequently put him in motion or split him out wide? I can't imagine Favre throwing him a pass, except for that little shot put job that Wynn turned into a nice gain.
                              Who the hell did you have in mind, the beer vendor? The Packers played with who they had. Noah Herron would have been out there, but he's getting a paycheck for the rest of the season to rehab his knee. Wynn will have to grow up in a hurry. It's not like Morency is the next coming of Tomlinson. The Packers have raw talent minus the talent in the offensive backfield. Get used to it.

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                              • #30
                                well, maybe Nick Collins could serve as a receiving back in a pinch.

                                he showed those sticky hands again today.

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