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[RashanGary]

I don't even care if the don't ever step up on offense, so long as at the end of the game, I'm writing a W on my schedule.

Ziggy, we're not going to win every game with two muffed punts that set up 10 points and an interception that sets up another 3. Philly was a good team, it's not time to panic but we have to get better and it has to be soon. This team can't afford to drop games like the Giants, Vikings, Lions or Redskins because we have teams like Denver, Chicago, Sandiego and Dallas coming up. I'm hoping for a legit playoff threat and a true NFC competitor. IF our offense doesn't improve greatly, I feel pretty confident that, that will not happen as we envisioned it.

[RashanGary]

DP

[Bretsky]

I don't even care if the don't ever step up on offense, so long as at the end of the game, I'm writing a W on my schedule.

Ziggy, we're not going to win every game with two muffed punts that set up 10 points and an interception that sets up another 3. Philly was a good team, it's not time to panic but we have to get better and it has to be soon. This team can't afford to drop games like the Giants, Vikings, Lions or Redskins because we have teams like Denver, Chicago, Sandiego and Dallas coming up. I'm hoping for a legit playoff threat and a true NFC competitor. IF our offense doesn't improve greatly, I feel pretty confident that, that will not happen as we envision it.

I have a glass of Kool Aide in my hand

With an Inglebird Martin like talent at QB and no defense worth discussing, we are going to pound the Giants

Take it to the Bank

[MJZiggy]

I don't even care if the don't ever step up on offense, so long as at the end of the game, I'm writing a W on my schedule.

Ziggy, we're not going to win every game with two muffed punts that set up 10 points and an interception that sets up another 3. Philly was a good team, it's not time to panic but we have to get better and it has to be soon. This team can't afford to drop games like the Giants, Vikings, Lions or Redskins because we have teams like Denver, Chicago, Sandiego and Dallas coming up. I'm hoping for a legit playoff threat and a true NFC competitor. IF our offense doesn't improve greatly, I feel pretty confident that, that will not happen as we envisioned it.

You missed my point. I didn't say they won't ever step up. They will come together as the season moves on like they did last year. How did the o-line play against Chicago in last year's opener? How'd they play vs. the same team to close the season? And there are times when your defense can win the game for you. But even that wasn't my point. My point was, ugly as it was, it was a win, they fought for it, they deserved it because they never lost faith in their ability to fight it out and it put a W on my schedule. I don't care how they do it as long as that W appears...

[RashanGary]

Yeah, and my point is the W's won't keep appearing if we don't get better soon.

Oh well, I'm being very critical on them for how bad they played. McCarthy seems focused on fixing it. Let's see how it goes. We do need improvment though. I'm really hoping, as a fan, for big improvments with the Oline this week. I think we need it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jim Jones showed in the preseason that

The original Kool Aide man is now a Packer, never thought of that.


But those hacks had nothing on the Church of the SubGenius, eh Bob?

[Bretsky]

Yeah, and my point is the W's won't keep appearing if we don't get better soon.

Oh well, I'm being very critical on them for how bad they played. McCarthy seems focused on fixing it. Let's see how it goes. We do need improvment though. I'm really hoping, as a fan, for big improvments with the Oline this week. I think we need it.

Right now the difference between us is your expectations are much higher.

[BobDobbs]

The original Kool Aide man is now a Packer, never thought of that.


But those hacks had nothing on the Church of the SubGenius, eh Bob?

You're right about that Harlan. What's the point of amassing a cult following just rabid to do your bidding if you're not going to get filthy rich and fancy outfits? Just look at scientology. Now THAT is a cult.

Anyway, any tea leaf reader worth their, um, leaves can plainly see that the arrival of the man called Jim Jones is a sign of the arrival of the Age of Everflowing Kool Aide. So drink deep brothers and sisters for it is foretold that all will soon have a Kool Aide mustache.

[wist43]

I hadn't had time until last night to go back and look at the game a little bit...

The OL - all 5 of them - were putrid, just absolutely putrid. Watching it live, you don't pay that close of attention to the OL, unless there is an obvious breakdown that lands Brett on his rear end, but taking the time to run thru the plays a few times each - that OL was nothing short of embarrassing.

Wells simply isn't big enough... routinely blown into the backfield. The only chance Wells has of accomplishing his assignment on any given play is if the defensive linemen is already committed to going where Wells is supposed to block him. He's great in space... would probably rather see him at FB.

Spitz was awful, and likely has lost his job to Coston. Spitz couldn't redirect, he wiffed far too often in the open field, he got no movement in the running game... this could be a long list, suffice it to say, his being benched is very much justified.

Colledge wasn't as bad as Spitz, but he was a disaster as well. He gets knocked around far too easily, and although he doesn't get knocked back into the backfield as much as Wells, he still gets handled fairly easily by just about any DT across from him.

Clifton's play was disasterous... maybe the knees have caught up to him to the point where he can't play anymore. If he doesn't pick it up, he'll have to be benched as well. It isn't a matter of whether I would like to see him benched or not, which I wouldn't - I like Clifton, but if he can't play any better than he did on Sunday - then he can't play. It's that simple. Clifton almost cost them the game allowing that 4th quarter sack and fumble. That one play stood out, but he was awful the whole game.

Tauscher wasn't great, but at least he wasn't as complete a disaster as the other 4. Still, he didn't play very well either.

Overall, this has to be the worst OL in the NFL... or at least they played that way. Everyone is happy with the win, but unless the OL gets up to speed, their season will be sunk.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The only chance Wells has of accomplishing his assignment on any given play is if the defensive linemen is already committed to going where Wells is supposed to block him.

You're being too harsh. It's also possible that the defender will trip and fall down. Or pull a groin muscle.