Has the Kool-aid worn off yet, or is this to soon?

[oregonpackfan]

Blues,

I don't agree with you that Jones significantly slowed down causing the pass to be overthrown. The ball was just plain overthrown by Favre.

You could tell by Favre's body language that he was upset with himself for missing an open receiver. There was a good chance Jones would have scored a TD on that catch.

I agree with the posters who state that with Jennings and Morency returning and Jackson getting a little more experience, the offense should improve considerably.

[PackerBlues]

Blues,

I don't agree with you that Jones significantly slowed down causing the pass to be overthrown. The ball was just plain overthrown by Favre.

Perhaps I should throw the tape in and watch it again, I wanted to wait till the end of the week though when I start going through withdraw, lol.

You may be right OPF, it looked to me like Jones was slowed down by looking over his shoulder for the ball, and again, I did see the same thing, on the same exact route in the preseason. I thought that if he had been going full speed, he would have been in position to catch the ball on the run, and I took Favre's look of frustration as being upset that the rookie ran his route wrong again.

I am not saying I am right, and I will watch the play again when I get around to it. I will freely admit that I am wrong, if when I do watch it again, while thinking about your point of view, I see something different than what I thought I saw.

[Rastak]

What do you think Vikings fans think about all their cap space? They lead the league, according to MMQB.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/09/09/Week1/3.html

One more reason to fear the Colts: They are, relatively speaking, in phenomenally good cap shape. The 10 teams that open the season with the most to spend under the league's $109-million cap limit:

1. Minnesota $19.05 million
2. Jacksonville $18.66 million
3. Tampa Bay $17.12 million
4. Buffalo $13.77 million
5. Indianapolis $13.32 million
6. Kansas City $12.99 million
7. Dallas $12.95 million
8. Tennessee $12.93 million
9. Green Bay $12.80 million
10. Oakland $11.99 million

The teams pinching pennies the most as the season dawns: Chicago ($647,000), Detroit ($1.68 million), Arizona ($1.74 million) and the Giants ($1.76 million).

Think their fans aren't screaming for a WR?

Nah, I'm not hearing any screams. They have a couple young guys that have some promise. Who can you sign now? Plus, that probably doesn't count the Pat Williams extension which is likely front loaded.

[Scott Campbell]

Blues,

I don't agree with you that Jones significantly slowed down causing the pass to be overthrown. The ball was just plain overthrown by Favre.

Perhaps I should throw the tape in and watch it again, I wanted to wait till the end of the week though when I start going through withdraw, lol.

You may be right OPF, it looked to me like Jones was slowed down by looking over his shoulder for the ball, and again, I did see the same thing, on the same exact route in the preseason. I thought that if he had been going full speed, he would have been in position to catch the ball on the run, and I took Favre's look of frustration as being upset that the rookie ran his route wrong again.

I am not saying I am right, and I will watch the play again when I get around to it. I will freely admit that I am wrong, if when I do watch it again, while thinking about your point of view, I see something different than what I thought I saw.

From what I remember, he slowed early in the route like he was going into a break. That's how he got his seperation. If he hadn't slowed down, he might have been able to catch the ball. But the corner would have been right there with him.

[Scott Campbell]

Who can you sign now?

Robert Fergeson types, which proves your point.

[the_idle_threat]

Blues,

I don't agree with you that Jones significantly slowed down causing the pass to be overthrown. The ball was just plain overthrown by Favre.

Perhaps I should throw the tape in and watch it again, I wanted to wait till the end of the week though when I start going through withdraw, lol.

You may be right OPF, it looked to me like Jones was slowed down by looking over his shoulder for the ball, and again, I did see the same thing, on the same exact route in the preseason. I thought that if he had been going full speed, he would have been in position to catch the ball on the run, and I took Favre's look of frustration as being upset that the rookie ran his route wrong again.

I am not saying I am right, and I will watch the play again when I get around to it. I will freely admit that I am wrong, if when I do watch it again, while thinking about your point of view, I see something different than what I thought I saw.

From what I remember, he slowed early in the route like he was going into a break. That's how he got his seperation. If he hadn't slowed down, he might have been able to catch the ball. But the corner would have been right there with him.

I agree with Blues on what happened, but I don't come away with the same conclusion.

When they ran the replay, I noticed that Jones sort of pulled up on the route for a moment, going hard downfield only after he saw the ball was going that way. I got the impression that he didn't know exactly where the ball was gonna go---that he was expecting it to go to a different spot than Favre was expecting to throw to.

This suggests to me that Favre and Jones were not on the same page on that play. It might be Jones' fault for not knowing the play or not running it correctly, as opposed to Favre's fault for overthrowing. If Jones had gone hard downfield from the get go, the pass looked like it would have been on the money.

The question is---would this have been prevented by bringing in a veteran receiver? Maybe a Darrell Jackson or Randy Moss?

I think not.

This didn't strike me as a rookie mistake---like the kind where an inexperienced receiver fails to get open against NFL caliber defensive backs. Jones was open on the play---he was just open in the wrong place. This struck me as the kind of mistake that any receiver can make that is new to Favre and new to the offense. It takes some time for most receivers to develop an uderstanding of a new offense and a rapport with a new QB. A veteran receiver could have made the same error, especially in week one.

[PackerBlues]

Maybe the real reason I want to blame Jones is the fact that he only got me two points for my fantasy football team, lol.

[GrnBay007]

Maybe the real reason I want to blame Jones is the fact that he only got me two points for my fantasy football team, lol.

I'll take him! :P