JENNINGS INJURY HURTS A LOT

[woodbuck27]

With the condition the Giants 'O' is in today there is no pressure to rush Jennings.

We took a gift win Vs Philly and very well, with little ourselves on 'O could manufacture a 2-0 start.

We still need a lot of help on the OL and running game.It would be nice to see something at TE develop as well.

DREAMING in realities.

[Joemailman]

I don't think either guy was the problem. Oftentimes, when you don't have time in the pocket, you have to throw it to a spot and hope the receiver gets there. Jones checked up a bit on the route. (Who knows if he should or shouldn't have.) By that time, the ball was in the air. Easy to be off a bit on those throws. It's not like he was sitting in the pocket, the WR broke free, and he could comfortably lead the receiver.

I agree. Jones did a little stop and go which Favre may not have been expecting. I actually think it was a good move which freed him from the DB, but probably threw the timing of the play off.

As for Jennings, I think he is more of a deep threat when healthy than people give him credit for. However, the most important thing is to get the running game going. It is very hard to throw downfield when the safeties can ugnore the run and play a deep zone. The Saints found that out Thursday Night, and they had the best passing attack in the league last year.

[The Leaper]

Jennings is hardly a proven deep threat, nor does he have the speed to actually be one. You can't merely will yourself to be a deep threat...it is something you are either born with or you aren't.

[Packnut]

Favre

I think our biggest problem in the deep passing game is Favre. I've been saying this for years and getting bashed for it, but it was evident again Sunday. Favre missed a wide open receiver that broke free deep. The deep ball is Favre's weekest throw always has been. You don't always have to have blazing speed to break free deep, you just need to put the ball in the receivers hands when they do!

More times than not, a stop and go route also involves a pump fake and since there was none, it's only logical to assume Jones might have made a mistake. Also when you factor in that there is zero chemistry, I don't see how Favre is at fault on this one. Did'nt seem like Favre any any problems on deep balls when we had a guy named Javon Walker here. Yeah the same Javon Walker who had 119 Sunday.

[MJZiggy]

Traitor doesn't work here anymore and hasn't for 2 years. His team didn't play the Eagles and it doesn't matter what he did against Buffalo's potent defense.

[Joemailman]

Nobody beats a dead horse like good ol' Packnut.

[Partial]

Jennings is hardly a proven deep threat, nor does he have the speed to actually be one. You can't merely will yourself to be a deep threat...it is something you are either born with or you aren't.

I seem to recall a good amount of his receptions being deep balls. I would say he is quite skilled at the long bomb.

[BallHawk]

Nobody beats a dead horse like good ol' Packnut.

It's not even a horse by now, it's a rotting carcass with flies buzzing around it.

[Bretsky]

I actually think Jennings is capable of making defences respect the deep ball... he showed some of that last year before his injury.
But the most important facet of the passing game is the running game. If that isn't fixed then you can have Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens and Torry Holt out there and you'll only have modest success.

What Jennings return will do is have a ripple effect elsewhere in the receiving corps. As the article mentioned, Driver often seemed to have two DBs draped over him. Assuming opposing coordinators have some respect for what Jennings can do, they may have to ease up on DD and focus some attention on GJ. It also allows James Jones to run against the third defensive back more, which is more conducive to where he is in his development. He shouldn't be going up against a #2 corner at this point.

Having said all this, how many teams wouldn't struggle with their #2 out? Take Reggie Wayne away from Peyton and he'd lose something. Take Isaac Bruce out of the Rams lineup and Bulger may struggle. Take Houshmanzadeh away from Carson Palmer? Almost every team (except maybe NE) would struggle in that situation. It's not something the Packers in particular are specificially vulnerable to.

[Bretsky]

Traitor doesn't work here anymore and hasn't for 2 years. His team didn't play the Eagles and it doesn't matter what he did against Buffalo's potent defense.

I have a hard time calling JW a traitor; I've be equally as critical of the Turtle for letting us fans down. The blame lies in the middle.

I still wish he were here.

[Bretsky]

Jennings is hardly a proven deep threat, nor does he have the speed to actually be one. You can't merely will yourself to be a deep threat...it is something you are either born with or you aren't.

I seem to recall a good amount of his receptions being deep balls. I would say he is quite skilled at the long bomb.

What Jennings gives Green Bay is a second fluent route runner with the ability to get open against a starting caliber CB on a somewhat consistent basis.

I did not see that out of Jones, Martin, or Holiday at all.

I don't think Jennings puts a scare into anybody on the deep ball like Javon did, but I would categorize him as being a good enough route runner with enough speed to be an occasional deep threat.

More than anything, what we miss is the second guy who can get open against top level competition.

[MJZiggy]

Traitor doesn't work here anymore and hasn't for 2 years. His team didn't play the Eagles and it doesn't matter what he did against Buffalo's potent defense.

I have a hard time calling JW a traitor; I've be equally as critical of the Turtle for letting us fans down. The blame lies in the middle.

I still wish he were here.

He isn't. It's over. And he plays against us on October 29. I hope every pass that goes his way gets picked.

[BallHawk]

Both VPF and Bretsky make good points. You don't need Reggie Wayne opposite Driver to be successful, just somebody competent enough that the defense has to pay attention to him.

BTW, Ruvell Martin needs to get some more looks. He has the talent to be a very solid #3/4.

[Bretsky]

Both VPF and Bretsky make good points. You don't need Reggie Wayne opposite Driver to be successful, just somebody competent enough that the defense has to pay attention to him.

BTW, Ruvell Martin needs to get some more looks. He has the talent to be a very solid #3/4.

Martin just rarely gets open; he's OK in a zone or a jump ball. But Sunday it really looked like he could not beat anybody man to man.

[oregonpackfan]

I think our biggest problem in the deep passing game is Favre. I've been saying this for years and getting bashed for it, but it was evident again Sunday. Favre missed a wide open receiver that broke free deep. The deep ball is Favre's weekest throw always has been. You don't always have to have blazing speed to break free deep, you just need to put the ball in the receivers hands when they do!

Folks, I have to agree with LWECA on this point. Though I love Favre's improvisation, toughness, and competive spirit, his accuracy on long passes has always been substandard. On his long passes, he relies on the receiver adjusting his route and going up to bring the pass down. Rarely does he hit a receiver stride-for-stride on a long pass.