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    Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets

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    By Chris Mortensen
    ESPN.com

    NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

    The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

    "The rule is that no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game," the league said in a statement from spokesman Greg Aiello. "Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited.

    "We are looking into whether the Patriots violated this rule."

    The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

    The league's competition committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets.

    "It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

    In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

    "From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."


    A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

    "With anything along those lines, those are all league-related matters, and anything that deals with an issue like this or anything on a team-by-team basis, those all go to the league," coach Eric Mangini said in his news conference Monday.

    New England cornerback Ellis Hobbs said he was unaware of the controversy, and unwilling to believe his team had cheated.

    "We put too many hours in as individuals and a team to have to go out and cheat," he said. "If it's true, obviously, we're in the wrong. But I'm standing behind my team, my coaches. I don't think we do that stuff."

  • #2
    Already up on the forum:

    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    • #3
      My bad.........

      I looked but didn't see it.

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      • #4
        Well, that certainly explains why Randy Moss outran three, count 'em, three defenders to hall in a pass from Brady at the goal line. The shine of the lens must've gotten in those Jets' eyes.

        Actually, I would LOVE to find out that this tape is stocked full of coordinators signals. I'm so sick of Tom Brady Bunch and Co. that, it would be nice to see the "model" franchise with the supermodel QB and genius head coach, and defense with the heart of a lion stumble on itself a bit. Hey, I'm just human, and don't want nobody stealin' the headlines from my Packers.

        Maybe that's why Moss went to the Patriots. They probably set up cameras in his bathroom to get all the latest gossip and know what buttons to push during his interview. I can see it now "Yo, Ran Ran, how's about I rip out some Tupac, and we kick it, slim?" Of course he chose New England, they knew what color his shit was!!
        "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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        • #5
          I wonder who tipped off the Packers about the guy with a camera before last year's game? It sounds like it might have been someone in the League office.

          I wonder if the Packers had a little sting operation going on in coordination with officials in the head office, particularly given Bob Harlan's connections.

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          • #6
            Could that be why he didn't file a complaint last year?
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #7
              Teams stealing signals has been going on since the beginning of sports. It's one thing to have a guy watch and figure it out, it's entirely another to video tape or take pictures. But then again, what does it matter anyway? Teams look at film and pictures of the game during the game anyway. The QB's get the call through their helmets and the defense through any one of a miriad of other ways.

              My personal belief is that any footage of the game should, whether pictures, video or otherwise, should not be viewed until after the game. How many times have you seen someone busting a play and then watching the jumbotron to see who is behind them? That isn't football to me.
              "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
              – Benjamin Franklin

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              • #8
                I guess it's only appropriate that the Patriots are stealing signals since the refs stole that playoff game in 2001 against the Raiders for them.

                Tuck rule my fanny.

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                • #9
                  Update:

                  Sources: Goodell determines Pats broke rules by taping Jets' signals

                  NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has determined that the New England Patriots violated league rules Sunday when they videotaped defensive signals by the New York Jets' coaches, according to league sources.

                  NFL security officials confiscated a camera and videotape from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the New England sidelines when it was suspected he was recording the Jets' defensive signals. Sources say the visual evidence confirmed the suspicion.

                  Goodell is considering severe sanctions, including the possibility of docking the Patriots "multiple draft picks" because it is the competitive violation in the wake of a stern warning to all teams since he became commissioner, the sources said. The Patriots have been suspected in previous incidents.

                  The Patriots will be allowed an opportunity to present their case by Friday, sources said, most likely via the telephone.

                  NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said on Tuesday that no official decision has been made and that the club has not been notified.

                  The league also was reviewing a possible violation into the number of radio frequencies the Patriots were using during Sunday's game, sources said. The team did not have a satisfactory explanation when asked about possible irregularities in its communication setup during the game.

                  Goodell is expected to have a decision no later than Friday but that is not set in stone.

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                  • #10
                    And they're messing with radio frequencies?



                    Man, I'd love to see Roger come down hard on them for this.
                    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                    • #11
                      they should have to take a loss for the Jets game, but I am sure they will lose draft picks, fined, and personnel involved suspended.

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                      • #12
                        They have an extra first next year, right? They can afford to give it up.
                        </delurk>

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Merlin
                          Teams stealing signals has been going on since the beginning of sports. It's one thing to have a guy watch and figure it out, it's entirely another to video tape or take pictures. But then again, what does it matter anyway? Teams look at film and pictures of the game during the game anyway. The QB's get the call through their helmets and the defense through any one of a miriad of other ways.

                          My personal belief is that any footage of the game should, whether pictures, video or otherwise, should not be viewed until after the game. How many times have you seen someone busting a play and then watching the jumbotron to see who is behind them? That isn't football to me.

                          Focus, Merlin, focus.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                            they should have to take a loss for the Jets game, but I am sure they will lose draft picks, fined, and personnel involved suspended.
                            I expect that the Patriots are going to be very severely punished.

                            This is cheating worse than steroids. The next step would be to intercept the radio transmissions to the QB. Plant microphones in the visitor locker room. Rabid raccoons stuffed in lockers. They have to stop this sort of nonsense.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                              they should have to take a loss for the Jets game, but I am sure they will lose draft picks, fined, and personnel involved suspended.
                              I expect that the Patriots are going to be very severely punished.

                              This is cheating worse than steroids. The next step would be to intercept the radio transmissions to the QB. Plant microphones in the visitor locker room. Rabid raccoons stuffed in lockers. They have to stop this sort of nonsense.
                              Opposing teams visiting Gillett Stadium should probably sweep the locker room for bugs! My guess is Belichek also has hidden camaras in the cheerleaders' dressing room. Unbelievable!

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