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  • Suspend Him!!!!!

    This from Mike Celizic:

    IF BELICHICK SPIED, SUSPEND HIM

    If Patriots’ coach Bill Belichick is found to have ordered the taping of Jets’ defensive signals against NFL rules, he’s a cheater. And if NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell finds that is the case, Belichick should get the same penalty that players who cheat by using drugs get. He should be suspended for four games for what would be his first offense.

    I don’t mean banned from the sidelines. I mean banned from any contact with the team, whether in person or via e-mail, instant messenger, overnight express, phone, carrier pigeon, semaphores or smoke signals.

    That’s the rule for individuals who try to get an advantage by taking illegal performance-enhancing drugs. It’s only fair that it should be the rule for coaches who take illegal performance-enhancing videotapes.

    In my last entry, I admit I grossly underplayed the incident. On Monday, I wrote that I didn’t think Belichick was involved in team employees taping the Jets’ defensive signals on the sidelines during Sunday’s game against the Jets. I didn’t put espionage past Belichick, but I felt that the method used was too crude and obvious to be his work. I thought he was too smart for such obvious method as standing on the sideline and pointing a camcorder at the Jets defensive coaches.

    I was wrong. The NFL has determined that the Pats were taping the signals, a violation of NFL rules, and Belichick has issued a brief apology, although exactly what he is apologizing for isn’t clear. He blames the incident on his own misreading of league rules.

    Commissioner Roger Goodell, who’s done little during his brief tenure other than put out forest fires, is reportedly extremely ticked off. He should be. The integrity of many sports is under attack, and the NFL is no exception. Fans want to know that what they’re seeing is legitimate. Stealing signals violates the trust of the fans as well as the basic rules of fair play and sportsmanship. And this incident makes you wonder what else Belichick has been doing during his extraordinary tenure in New England.

    It’s not stealing signals that has propelled this past my threshold of moral outrage. Having a coach or employee watch the sidelines and attempt to decipher what they’re looking at is totally within the rules and part of the game. Even recording the action from a seat in the stands might be viewed as somewhat legitimate – you’re not seeing anything that game cameras and other fans can’t see.

    But the rules specifically prohibit such taping on the sidelines, and that’s what the Patriots’ employees were doing, and from the apology and the statement, it was done with Belichick’s knowledge and most likely his blessing. With a tight zoom from that vantage point, you can read the play chart and link what you see with the calls being made.

    There are ways to counter such espionage, as I wrote Monday. No team should be victimized by such tactics if they take simple precautions. But the action taken was a violation of league rules for the purpose of cheating – at least that’s the indication from Goodell’s office.

    Belickick saying he misinterpreted the rules doesn’t wash. It’s the same as a player caught with tainted urine arguing that he didn’t know what was in that supplement he was taking. Ignorance is no excuse. Like players considering a supplement, it’s his obligation to call the league to see if what he wants to do is permitted.

    Word is that Goodell is considering docking the Pats several draft choices. That would hurt, no question about it. But why have one set of rules for players and another for coaches? If Belichick cheated, let him suffer the same penalty as a player who does.

    Give him four weeks of in-season vacation.

  • #2
    I certainly agree, and this is coming from a pats fan

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    • #3
      I heard on the radio that this spying business could cost the Patriots a 1st rd pick and maybe more! Ouch!

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      • #4
        The punishment needs to immediate...not a future draft pick.

        He's a smart man, touted as a football genius, he knew the rules...he broke them, he needs to be suspended.

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        • #5
          Hmmm, where did I hear the possible Belechik suspension?



          Charging them a no 1 pick would be huge. It would certainly send a message. I don't know if it will affet Belechik much though, I am thinking he is retiring after this year. I say put a spot of tarnish on him - suspend him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by packinpatland
            The punishment needs to immediate...not a future draft pick.

            He's a smart man, touted as a football genius, he knew the rules...he broke them, he needs to be suspended.


            I COMPLETELY disagree. A suspension does nothing while the loss of a high draft pick HURTS. Suspension is for show, draft pick is to deter others from pulling the same crap.

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            • #7
              the Pats needs to forfeit the win and give the win to the Jets
              The Bottom Line:
              Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Numb
                the Pats needs to forfeit the win and give the win to the Jets

                THAT is the ultimate deterent.

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                • #9
                  I sure hope the Packers are smarter at hiding their cameras and informants with binoculars than the Patriots appear to be!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rastak
                    Originally posted by Numb
                    the Pats needs to forfeit the win and give the win to the Jets

                    THAT is the ultimate deterent.
                    No kidding. Then they need to give us the win from last year too, right?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rastak
                      Originally posted by Numb
                      the Pats needs to forfeit the win and give the win to the Jets

                      THAT is the ultimate deterent.

                      Maybe he'd be further deterred by a 4 game suspension

                      AND loss of 1st draft pick ?? Serves dual purpose.
                      Is it really a halo or
                      just a swelled head ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by packinpatland
                        No kidding. Then they need to give us the win from last year too, right?
                        9-7 would put us in the playoffs instead of the Giants, they ought to replay last year's postseason as a result.
                        </delurk>

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                        • #13
                          OK, this really pisses me off. First off, I hate the Patriots. So, I am elated at this news because it really tarnishes the organization. But, hell, what about the Jets, who sit at 0-1, and were beaten by a team that knew what they were running play by play? Who is helping them? If you ask me, they should give the Jets the win, and the Patriots the loss. If you got beat at a game, and found out someone cheated to beat you, would you still be declared the winner? Not in Vegas, baby. You're ass would be paying back all you're money plus interest with a jail sentence or at least a nice little boot out of town for the rest of you're life. You certainly wouldn't keep your winnings. How fair is it that the Jets have to start their season a game back by losing to a team that cheated to beat them? Plus, this prick was probably doing this all last year too, as we know, and god knows how much information they have stored up through the years with the hidden cameras. They probably know our entire playbook. Remember the asskicking we took last year, and how that affected the confidence of the team and us fans? They probably have a guy buying tickets to the game of their next weeks opponents and have him sitting in the stands taking pictures to help study for the next week. Sit Billy out? To hell with that, take away what really hurts, the win. This is unprecedented, and should be met with stern punishment.
                          If all teams are doing this, and they just happened to get caught, disregard this post.
                          "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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                          • #14
                            no suspension. forfeit the game and multiple draft pick loss be better. like their next two first round picks. something big that will really be a deterent. something that a team can't look at and say it'll still be worth it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by packinpatland
                              The punishment needs to immediate...not a future draft pick.

                              He's a smart man, touted as a football genius, he knew the rules...he broke them, he needs to be suspended.
                              When you hear the words "Patriots" and "suspension" the first name that comes to mind is "Randy Moss."

                              Who would have thought it might be the coach?

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