Shady Brady and Bill Belicheat

[b bulldog]

sINCE YOU LIKE sd, YOU MUST GUYS WHO TAKE ROIDS???

[RashanGary]

bulldog, Brady might be good. He's universally accepted as a great player because of the big games he played in and won as a team. He's been known to make very few mistakes but knowing defenses plays would play a big part of that.

I've never been impressed with the way he played. He's never been a spectacular play maker to me. He's to QB's what Aaron Kampman is to DE's. He's a really good player. He's a probowl palyer, but he's not Reggie White, Brett Favre or Payton Manning.

I could be wrong but he's never impressed me. I'm very curious to see how he does without having the defenses plays for a year.

[RashanGary]

You could take Brett's 20th most spectacular play and it would probably be more spectacular than Brady's most spectacular play.

[b bulldog]

fAIR but he has football intelligence which makes him make few mistakes although he does still make them. This intelligence is one of the main reasons why is successful and why others are not. The intelligence will not fade as arm strength,accuracy and mobility does. Simply put and I won't take crdity for this because many have said this but Brady is a lot like Montana.

[RashanGary]

You think knowing what the defense is doiong before the snap has anything to do with looking smarter than everyone else?

I'm not saying it happened in every big game, but you have to admit that it is not a stretch at all to think that it did.

[b bulldog]

As I posted above, the whole team is open to criticism after this and all of these questions are legit. In regards to spectacular plays, Mike Vick would be near the top along side Steve Youngs scramble but Brady's most spectacular imo would be hoisting the Lombardi trophy three times after winning the SB.

[RashanGary]

In that case, Bart Starr is much better than Brady as he won 7 championships but I tend to think there is more to winning a championship than one of 45 players that suit up.

[b bulldog]

For all we know, it could have happened in every game, I have no idea how often it occurred. I would say this, if I was getting away with it I'd do it as much as possible if I was to do it at all.

[b bulldog]

As posted above, Montana and Brady are compared by many who know a hell of a lot more about football and the all time greats that either you or I.

[b bulldog]

bRETT SIMPLY MAKES WAY TOO MANY BAD DECISIONS althopugh he is very exciting. Their is a reason why he will break the good records this season along witht he bad. Everyone here will flip at this but I don't look at Brett as being a great big game player.

[RashanGary]

bRETT SIMPLY MAKES WAY TOO MANY BAD DECISIONS althopugh he is very exciting. Their is a reason why he will break the good records this season along witht he bad. Everyone here will flip at this but I don't look at Brett as being a great big game player.

Winningest player in NFL history. Went to two SB's, won one. Only had one losing season in his 16 (or however many year) career. He's a winner, bulldog. That is not arguable. He set the record for wins last week, in fact.

[b bulldog]

What is and what you forgot is playoffs and how many has he won since reggie left, that isn't argueable either! longevity doesn't make you great either. Brett is a first ballot HOFer but his playoff play has much to be desired since the denver loss in the SB. 7 pics in a single playoff game??

[RashanGary]

Brett was never involved with teams that were surrounded with performance enhancement scandles. His teams were never a part of the biggest illegal competitive advantage scandle in my years of watching the NFL either. There are plenty of reasons beyond Brady's play that could explain those wins and so far we've only taken into account the illegal ones.

[b bulldog]

Winner, never said he wasn't. What I posted on was big game performance, please see above posts please.

[b bulldog]

Fine and you can keep going back to that as I posted already at nauseum above. Believe what you want, BB opened the whole organization to all of this. Actually the biggest performance scandal was swept under the rug, the 70's steelers.