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  • #31
    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
    Defense is about hurting people and having bad intentions. If a guy is affraid of injury he'll drop balls or throw bad passes. I'm all about hurting guys. If a defense isn't knocking a few guys out every year, they are not a dominate defense and tehy will not scare anyone. You have to give concussions, break bones and put guys in awkward positions that causes injury. It is what it is. If you don't like it, you should probably find another sport because the great defenses have alwyas had bad intentions and have always hurt the opposition. There is no room in good defense for the Sharper courtesy push.
    First off, these guys don't fear a damn thing. Maybe wide outs over the middle after they get blasted ate the exception I think . Injuries do not scare anybody from what I see. One guy goes down, the other don't cringe. You might also consult your local nfl films on Sharper...I'm not sure if he was timid in Green Bay but he's been laying out solid hits in Minnesota. I'm serious too, not just talking the usual bullshit smack.

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    • #32
      Guys do get scared. If a QB gets knocked around, he has happy feet and is not accurate for a few plays. If a RB gets blown up he's more likely to drop a pass on the next couple plays. A WR that gets lit up is almost sure to drop his next pass.

      I see guys get lit and I know they are going to screw up. Tough defense gets in teams heads. Sometimes a big hit or a big sack on 1st down stops the offense from excecuting on 3rd down becuase of a drop where a guy hears footsteps or a QB with happy feet.

      I don't beleive in just stopping the offense. I believe in hurting them and making them scared and yes, I believe they play worse after getting hit in the 1st quarter. The more consistant, the more errors you can expect IMO. There is no study on it, but I really believe taht the more physical a team is on defense, the more likely the opposition is to screw up on their own because the defense is in their head.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #33
        I think hitting guys in general makes the guy that got hit a bit hesitant. I don't think it translates to other guys who weren't hit but I'd be glad to have view disputed by an NFL player because high school football (freshman only) is as far as I got. I wasn't in the least concerned with someone else getting drilled, just me.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rastak
          I think hitting guys in general makes the guy that got hit a bit hesitant.
          This is what I meant. It has to be consistant though.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #35
            Wow-thats pretty strong stuff. I don't think most players have any intentions of hurting other players, beyond the big hard hit. If you go out with the intention of hurting someone you should be in jail not on the field!

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            • #36
              i always thought it was general knowledge that football players were sadistic deviants who would be in jail if they couldn't let their homicidal tendencies out on the football field
              Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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              • #37
                Originally posted by falco
                i always thought it was general knowledge that football players were sadistic deviants who would be in jail if they couldn't let their homicidal tendencies out on the football field
                If this were the case, people like Pac-Man Jones and Tank Johnson would be sentenced to more football instead of less football when they screw up.

                "We're not going to suspend you, but you're going to have to play in the CFL this offseason."
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                • #38
                  One of my earliest memories of the NFL was 1982. Week 2. Monday Night Football. Green Bay at the Giants. The Pack was 1-0 going into the game, but everybody knew the strike was coming. They destroyed the Giants. James Lofton had a sweet 80-yard TD on a reverse. It was the first time in a long-time that the Packers seemed like a contender, but there was this gloomy feeling that it was all going to be spoiled by the strike.

                  The strike lasted for almost half the year. The Packers had a solid team that year. They made the playoffs. They crushed Phoenix in the first round of the playoffs. Then, they were within striking distance of the Cowboys in Texas Stadium. It was 30-26 in the 4th quarter. Packers were driving. Lynn Dickey threw an interception that was returned for a TD. Started another decade of losing until Wolf-Holmgren-Favre-White.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gbpackfan
                    Rotoworld.com now reports....

                    Despite reporting earlier Friday that Eli Manning would start on Sunday, NFL Network's Adam Schefter now reports he will be a game-time decision.

                    ESPN's John Clayton reported today that he didn't think Eli would play. If you own Manning, plan on not having him and check back around game time on Sunday to find out his status.
                    Source: nfl.com


                    So who the hell knows what is going on. I'll guess we'll see come Sunday.
                    Comment woodbuck27:

                    This is where it is right now:

                    Adam Shef revised it to a game time decision.

                    Giants' Manning a game-time decision vs. Packers

                    NFL.com Wire Reports

                    After being cautious this week with his injured right throwing shoulder during practices, New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning will be a game-time decision Sunday against the Green Bay Packers, reports NFL Network’s Adam Schefter.

                    Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said Manning looked capable in practice Friday.

                    "He seemed to throw the ball pretty good," he said.

                    "But that is not for me to judge. That’s for others. If you really watch closely, he did the smart thing. He loosened up pretty good and started to get into the velocity throws a little bit later on."

                    Comment fr. a Giant fan:

                    Of course he did - Eli tooks a few snaps and threw a few balls, while Lorenzen has run with the first squad all week. This one is simple as Lorenzen gts his first start.

                    Putting Eli in to start would be hurting the Giants and himself.

                    Gotta salute Coughlin for continuing with the charade in his attempt to keep the Packers guessing.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Rastak
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      Or as they snap it

                      Maybe Fat Pat lands on Favres knee and tears his acl....what's up with you and injuries?

                      The only way Fat Pat gets to Favre is if Brett is holding a plate of nachos.

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                      • #41
                        I think I can understand what JH is saying here. I dont remember the bears worried about Favre's health in the game below. I do remember them smashing into him and wondering when they where gonna take him out of the game.

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                        • #42
                          I say manning or no manning, neither QB they have is fast. Especially neither is fast enough to elude Jenkins or Kampman. Their gonna get a good tast of our D this weekend.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Him8123
                            I say manning or no manning, neither QB they have is fast. Especially neither is fast enough to elude Jenkins or Kampman. Their gonna get a good tast of our D this weekend.

                            Agreed. All those near misses on Donavan last week should turn into actual sacks with these slugs.

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                            • #44
                              ... and I'm gonna try to take a shot on every one, Scotty.

                              (i don't plan on driving)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by cpk1994
                                Originally posted by Rastak
                                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                                Or as they snap it

                                Maybe Fat Pat lands on Favres knee and tears his acl....what's up with you and injuries?

                                The only way Fat Pat gets to Favre is if Brett is holding a plate of nachos.
                                True, other guys will be there sooner anyway. 6 sacks last week.

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