Packer Players Pay

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lee & Franks seem to be roughly equal in, umm, ability.

There's a lot of luck & timing involved in salary.

Unless you are Driver or Harris & get your deal redone early.

[Patler]

Lee & Franks seem to be roughly equal in, umm, ability.

There's a lot of luck & timing involved in salary.

Unless you are Driver or Harris & get your deal redone early.

Luck and timing? I suppose. Play good for 5 years, go to the Pro Bowl 3 times and become the second leading Packer TE of all time in receptions and TDs. Have your contract come due after accomplishing all that, (or being close 2 years ago) and you are "lucky" enough to get a good contract.

Give Bubba his due. He was a good tight end for 5 years and earned his contract. He was huge in the red zone for the Packers. He was an excellent blocker.

Ranking second among all Packer TEs to Paul Coffman in TDs and receptions isn't too shabby, since he was known mostly as a blocker.

Donald Lee has accomplished very little so far, espcially in comparison to Franks.

[Harlan Huckleby]

yes, but Bubba was lucky to go into the toilet imediately AFTER signing his lucrative deal.

[Patler]

yes, but Bubba was lucky to go into the toilet imediately AFTER signing his lucrative deal.

It started with injuries that first year, which was hardly his fault nor to be expected. He had never missed a game in high school, college or the pros before that.

He's not the first guy to stumble after signing a new contract. At least he has worked to try and recover, and never complains, before or now.

I've never understood why so many complain so much about Bubba Franks. He has been a quiet, hard working player who performed well for 5 years, and never complained or caused problems.

[Bretsky]

yes, but Bubba was lucky to go into the toilet imediately AFTER signing his lucrative deal.

It started with injuries that first year, which was hardly his fault nor to be expected. He had never missed a game in high school, college or the pros before that.

He's not the first guy to stumble after signing a new contract. At least he has worked to try and recover, and never complains, before or now.

I've never understood why so many complain so much about Bubba Franks. He has been a quiet, hard working player who performed well for 5 years, and never complained or caused problems.

I see why people complain in general. His performance level hasn't lived up to his contract. We're in a what have you done for me lately world. Athletes, right or wrong, are paid some insane levels of money. When you get the big deal fans want steady production to back each annual salary.
Jealousy/disappointment/frustration/lack of production.....that's why some complain.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you're gonna get injured, don't let it be in your contract year. Best time to get hurt is after you sign.

Bubba followed this rule, JWalker did not. Just simple luck.

[Charles Woodson]

i think that if hester cant win the ROY, then i dont think any special team only players could win it...

[Patler]

If you're gonna get injured, don't let it be in your contract year. Best time to get hurt is after you sign.

Bubba followed this rule, JWalker did not. Just simple luck.

You are wondering in your argument. You started by implying that Bubba got his, and Lee hasn't because of "luck and timing."

Bubba got his because he played well enough to earn it.

Now you bring up Walker. But Walker got his too, and would have from GB had he wanted to stay in GB. Bubba played out his contract, Walker demanded his early. Injury prevented him from getting it early in GB, but it didn't stop him from getting it.

Donald Lee has not been denied his big contract because of either luck or timing. Its a simply matter of lack of performance, ever, in his entire four year career to date. He's in a contract year. He has a chance to earn a good one.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bubba got his because he played well enough to earn it.

Despite Bubba's earlier career success, if 2006 had been Bubba's contract year, he would likely be making Donald Lee money now.

timing. luck.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Donald Lee has not been denied his big contract because of either luck or timing.

right. I never suggested he was underpaid or unlucky.

[Patler]

Bubba got his because he played well enough to earn it.

Despite Bubba's earlier career success, if 2006 had been Bubba's contract year, he would likely be making Donald Lee money now.

timing. luck.

Not a chance. Lee makes the four-year veteran minimum because he has never accomplished a thing. Hence, he is a minimum salary player.

Franks as a three-time past Pro-Bowler, accomplished blocker and a proven red zone threat would have made more that the vets' minimum even if 2006 had been his contract year. If he wasn't worth more than that, the Packers would have cut him this year. They would have gained cap space doing it.

[Jimx29]

I'd be more than happy to walk around with a clipboard and a pen above my ear for 1.5 mil.......

[the_idle_threat]

Bubba got his because he played well enough to earn it.

Despite Bubba's earlier career success, if 2006 had been Bubba's contract year, he would likely be making Donald Lee money now.

timing. luck.

Not a chance. Lee makes the four-year veteran minimum because he has never accomplished a thing. Hence, he is a minimum salary player.

Franks as a three-time past Pro-Bowler, accomplished blocker and a proven red zone threat would have made more that the vets' minimum even if 2006 had been his contract year. If he wasn't worth more than that, the Packers would have cut him this year. They would have gained cap space doing it.

I agree with Patler here. Look at the $$$ Eric Johnson got, compared to his recent numbers. In the past four years, he's had one outstanding year, one very mediocre year, and missed two full years due to injury, and he's making something like $2M.

People spend money thinking that they can get the Pro Bowl performance, and hoping things don't turn out like the down years.

[Bretsky]

Bubba got his because he played well enough to earn it.

Despite Bubba's earlier career success, if 2006 had been Bubba's contract year, he would likely be making Donald Lee money now.

timing. luck.

Not a chance. Lee makes the four-year veteran minimum because he has never accomplished a thing. Hence, he is a minimum salary player.

Franks as a three-time past Pro-Bowler, accomplished blocker and a proven red zone threat would have made more that the vets' minimum even if 2006 had been his contract year. If he wasn't worth more than that, the Packers would have cut him this year. They would have gained cap space doing it.

I agree with Patler here. Look at the $$$ Eric Johnson got, compared to his recent numbers. In the past four years, he's had one outstanding year, one very mediocre year, and missed two full years due to injury, and he's making something like $2M.

People spend money thinking that they can get the Pro Bowl performance, and hoping things don't turn out like the down years.

Why didn't we try to sign him again ??

Oops; sorry. Wrong thread

[Patler]

Bubba got his because he played well enough to earn it.

Despite Bubba's earlier career success, if 2006 had been Bubba's contract year, he would likely be making Donald Lee money now.

timing. luck.

Not a chance. Lee makes the four-year veteran minimum because he has never accomplished a thing. Hence, he is a minimum salary player.

Franks as a three-time past Pro-Bowler, accomplished blocker and a proven red zone threat would have made more that the vets' minimum even if 2006 had been his contract year. If he wasn't worth more than that, the Packers would have cut him this year. They would have gained cap space doing it.

I agree with Patler here. Look at the $$$ Eric Johnson got, compared to his recent numbers. In the past four years, he's had one outstanding year, one very mediocre year, and missed two full years due to injury, and he's making something like $2M.

People spend money thinking that they can get the Pro Bowl performance, and hoping things don't turn out like the down years.

Why didn't we try to sign him again ??

Oops; sorry. Wrong thread

Because we already had one reclaim project at TE. How many do you want, and at what cost?