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    Jason (Newark NJ): Good afternoon, Mel! What did you think about the Packer strategy of repeatedly trading back such that they wound up with 12 overall picks? Though the Packers certainly could use the volume, when you use hindsight do you think that the Packers passing on quality players higher to get to 12 overall picks was worthwhile?

    Mel Kiper: As long as you don't lose out on players you need desperately it's okay to do that. I like moving down and coming out of the draft with 12 picks and guys who have character and toughenss like Hodge and Spitz. Colledge is a good pass blocker and WR Greg Jennings is an interesting guy in the second round. Overall, nine of the 12 probably have a future with the organization.
    "What's one more torpedo in a sinking ship?"
    Lynn Dickey, 1984

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  • #2
    9 out of 12 would be unreal!

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    • #3
      Yeah, that is amazing. Especially considering we only started the draft with 7 picks! We may have 9 players that stick, which is 2 more players then we had picks on the Friday before the draft!

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      • #4
        I just wish I could think that Mel's opinion is worth something. I don't think he knows anything when I disagree with him, so I can't think he does when he says something I do.
        "Every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end."

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        • #5
          I don't know if I can trust anything from espn anymore!

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          • #6
            A.J. Hawk - Lock
            Darryn Colledge - Lock
            Greg Jennings - Lock
            Abdul Hodge - Lock
            Jason Spitz - Good bet
            Cory Rodgers - Decent bet
            Will Blackmon - Decent bet
            Ingle Martin - Solid bet
            Tony Moll - Longshot
            Johnny Jolly - Longshot
            Tyrone Culver - 50/50
            Dave Tollefson - Longshot

            I'd say the over and under on playrs that make the team is 8... maybe 7.5 if I can do percentages. It's possible it could be 9.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #7
              Harv,

              either way that would have to be considered a HUGE success if that happens. Any team would be happy with 4 or 5 starters/contributors out of 12 picks.

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              • #8
                I think Jolley will make the team at DT.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  A.J. Hawk - Lock
                  Darryn Colledge - Lock
                  Greg Jennings - Lock
                  Abdul Hodge - Lock
                  Jason Spitz - Good bet
                  Cory Rodgers - Decent bet
                  Will Blackmon - Decent bet
                  Ingle Martin - Solid bet
                  Tony Moll - Longshot
                  Johnny Jolly - Longshot
                  Tyrone Culver - 50/50
                  Dave Tollefson - Longshot
                  That's a good list, Harv.

                  I'd only add that I think Cory Rodgers is closer to a decent bet as a return man and receiver. (I suspect here you may be thinking that the numbers are going to catch up with him in terms of how many receivers can be carried by the team,)

                  I'd also move Johnny Jolly and Tony Moll up to 50/50.
                  [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by swede
                    That's a good list, Harv.

                    I'd only add that I think Cory Rodgers is closer to a decent bet as a return man and receiver. (I suspect here you may be thinking that the numbers are going to catch up with him in terms of how many receivers can be carried by the team,)

                    I'd also move Johnny Jolly and Tony Moll up to 50/50.
                    Yes, I think Cory Rodgers could be caught in a numbers game. He's the 6th wideout right now. Also, I think he was a reach. Some of these guys will disappoint, and I think he's one of the better candidates to disappoint--especially since Blackmon has a shot at usurping his return duties. Blackmon is probably closer to a solid or good bet. All he has to do is beat out Jason Horton or show that he can be the returner. Martin makes it because he only has to beat out Tom Arth. There is a severe logjam at DT, so any 6th round pick faces an uphill batttle. Culver has to beat out Roman or Underwood. I have Moll as a longshot for the roster (he's a good candidate for the practice squad). The Packers usually carry 9 OL, and I can't see Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Barry, Tauscher, Klemm, Spitz, or Coston being cut. That leaves one spot open for White, Whitticker, and Moll. I think the Packers will go with White. Whitticker doesn't seem to fit the scheme. Because both Barry and Klemm are pretty solid backing up the starters at OT, I can't see them carrying 3 backup OTs--even if Barry wins the RG spot. They'll figure if Tauscher gets, they can move Barry to RT and move Spitz, Coston, or White into the starting lineup.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #11
                      Letr's not forget if our 3rd string QB is Ingle and he punts, there's room for one more.

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