Damn Straight!

[packinpatland]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3026958

"4. Damn straight, the Pack is back

Rich Kane/US Presswire
Even Brett Favre admits he has no clue whether the Packers are for real. The team has won six in a row dating to last season, but Favre was quick to say the Packers don't feel like a team on a six-game win streak. That's what he should say because the Packers are young in key areas and can't afford to think they've arrived. The Packers appear strong enough on defense to stay in games. They are also in the right conference. It's not too early to consider Green Bay a potential playoff team in the NFC, but the Pack is not all the way back. Not yet. -- Mike Sando

Settle down, Green Bay fans. The Packers aren't back -- and in many ways, they're the same as they were in 2006, at best an 8-8 team that could get to nine wins. To say they are back would be to say that this team has 10-11 win expectations. They are limited on offense because of the running game. Brandon Jackson can't do much after about 15 carries, and he could be replaced as a starter in the next few weeks. Brett Favre has a 13-year generation gap with seven offensive starters, and he's forced to throw more checkdowns and cautious passes. His 6.1 yards per attempt is the lowest in 16 years in Green Bay. The defense is good but not great. The good news is that the Packers should be in most games because of the defense, but without that running game, they will struggle holding second-half leads against good teams. -- John Clayton "

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John Clayton..............I don't know, but this is one of those times I'd like to just slap that little nerdy-looking guy.

[MJZiggy]

Maybe we need to bookmark this so we can ram it down Clayton's throat should he ever claim he knew they'd be at least a 10-win team.

[Carolina_Packer]

Please under-estimate the Pack, national press. It would make the story all the sweeter if they continued to have a good season, and actually make the playoffs.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Re: Damn Straight!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3026958

"4. Damn straight, the Pack is back

Rich Kane/US Presswire
Even Brett Favre admits he has no clue whether the Packers are for real. The team has won six in a row dating to last season, but Favre was quick to say the Packers don't feel like a team on a six-game win streak. That's what he should say because the Packers are young in key areas and can't afford to think they've arrived. The Packers appear strong enough on defense to stay in games. They are also in the right conference. It's not too early to consider Green Bay a potential playoff team in the NFC, but the Pack is not all the way back. Not yet. -- Mike Sando

Settle down, Green Bay fans. The Packers aren't back -- and in many ways, they're the same as they were in 2006, at best an 8-8 team that could get to nine wins. To say they are back would be to say that this team has 10-11 win expectations. They are limited on offense because of the running game. Brandon Jackson can't do much after about 15 carries, and he could be replaced as a starter in the next few weeks. Brett Favre has a 13-year generation gap with seven offensive starters, and he's forced to throw more checkdowns and cautious passes. His 6.1 yards per attempt is the lowest in 16 years in Green Bay. The defense is good but not great. The good news is that the Packers should be in most games because of the defense, but without that running game, they will struggle holding second-half leads against good teams. -- John Clayton "

This John Clayton guy doesn't get it. We don't know if the Pack is for real. Brett doesn't know if the Pack is for real. But John Clayton knows.

Come on, John. 6.1 yards per attempt is actually a good thing given our team's defense. And our first two games were against good teams and we took the lead during the second half of each game.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Please under-estimate the Pack, national press. It would make the story all the sweeter if they continued to have a good season, and actually make the playoffs.

thats the way the national media played my beloved chicago white sox back in 2005 until they ran away with the title. and yes, its much sweeter to be the underdog.

[b bulldog]

I do agree with him when he stated that the D is good but not great.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Settle down, Green Bay fans. The Packers aren't back -- and in many ways, they're the same as they were in 2006, at best an 8-8 team that could get to nine wins. To say they are back would be to say that this team has 10-11 win expectations. They are limited on offense because of the running game. Brandon Jackson can't do much after about 15 carries, and he could be replaced as a starter in the next few weeks. Brett Favre has a 13-year generation gap with seven offensive starters, and he's forced to throw more checkdowns and cautious passes. His 6.1 yards per attempt is the lowest in 16 years in Green Bay. The defense is good but not great. The good news is that the Packers should be in most games because of the defense, but without that running game, they will struggle holding second-half leads against good teams. -- John Clayton "

funny how he acts like only packer fans are raving about green bay...

[Joemailman]

Re: Damn Straight!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3026958

"4. Damn straight, the Pack is back

Rich Kane/US Presswire
Even Brett Favre admits he has no clue whether the Packers are for real. The team has won six in a row dating to last season, but Favre was quick to say the Packers don't feel like a team on a six-game win streak. That's what he should say because the Packers are young in key areas and can't afford to think they've arrived. The Packers appear strong enough on defense to stay in games. They are also in the right conference. It's not too early to consider Green Bay a potential playoff team in the NFC, but the Pack is not all the way back. Not yet. -- Mike Sando

Settle down, Green Bay fans. The Packers aren't back -- and in many ways, they're the same as they were in 2006, at best an 8-8 team that could get to nine wins. To say they are back would be to say that this team has 10-11 win expectations. They are limited on offense because of the running game. Brandon Jackson can't do much after about 15 carries, and he could be replaced as a starter in the next few weeks. Brett Favre has a 13-year generation gap with seven offensive starters, and he's forced to throw more checkdowns and cautious passes. His 6.1 yards per attempt is the lowest in 16 years in Green Bay. The defense is good but not great. The good news is that the Packers should be in most games because of the defense, but without that running game, they will struggle holding second-half leads against good teams. -- John Clayton "

This John Clayton guy doesn't get it. We don't know if the Pack is for real. Brett doesn't know if the Pack is for real. But John Clayton knows.

Come on, John. 6.1 yards per attempt is actually a good thing given our team's defense. And our first two games were against good teams and we took the lead during the second half of each game.

Actually the 6.1 is likely to go up unless the OL regularly blocks as poorly as they did against Philly. Favre's YPA was under 5 against Philly, over 7 against NYG.

[Merlin]

I would say our Defense is not good, not great, but average. That's where they are ranked right now, average. Since we have no other tangible things to rate them by, we have to go with the stats. Even though stats do lie, we are an average defense who got lucky enough not to let the big plays go for TD's like last year and the year before. We can't stop the run and the teams we played were too stupid in their play calling to see it.

[Zool]

Seriously, it is always raining where you live?

[Merlin]

Reality is seldom sunny and rose filled. You cannot be become better at anything if you do not recognize current and past short comings and potential future pitfalls. If you are happy with things the way they are, great. That's not for everyone.

[Zool]

You can never be happy if you always look for fault in everything and everyone.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I would say our Defense is not good, not great, but average. That's where they are ranked right now, average. Since we have no other tangible things to rate them by, we have to go with the stats.

That's if you are dumb enough to rank a defense by yardage allowed only. Where do they rank in points allowed?

[swede]

Show me anyone in Green Bay fandom, besides the guys that wear antlers to the games, who is thinking and saying that this team is a lock to win ten games.

The national media may think our rather unexpected two game win streak would cause many of us fans to recalibrate our pre-season predictions from 8-9 wins up to 10-11 wins, but they are wrong. Informed Packer fans are thrilled to be 2-0 but realistic about this team and what it has shown.

The defense has been good and plays gutty but they are neither dominant nor particularly polished.

The running game?--plug in anybody's rant here.

Special teams won the first game and Brett won the second game but we will be in major trouble without a good run game and a defense that plays great in most games.

Consequently--

If the running game straightens itself out and if the defense gets better game by game you damn betcha this is a playoff team and the national media, including John Clayton, can kiss Tarlam's arse.

(I don't want John Clayton anywhere near my arse.)

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think our defense has been pretty darn good. The second quarter in both games was pretty poor, but other than that, they've played good football against two good offensive teams.