What the hell is happening to our receivers?

[mmmdk]

I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

Listen, punk, of course (good) athletes do warmups...but apparently you've never been to an NFL game. Look at pre-game warmups by any unit - it's (at times) a joke! Some aren't even stretching out - even Favre has been notoriously lazy in pre-game warmups; Favre is lucky he's made of titanium but in resent years even he's had to get serious. McCarthy is all about pumping iron and it's not out the question that warmups get too little emphasis from Pittsburgh macho McCarthy. God, I hate you Online buddies who think they can "google" their way through life.

[Rastak]

I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

So which is it, shitty hamstrings or shitty warmups? Hamstring injuries are common in the NFL but if you don't warm up you are far more at risk. I think you are doing a diservice to our Danish friend.

[mmmdk]

I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

So which is it, shitty hamstrings or shitty warmups? Hamstring injuries are common in the NFL but if you don't warm up you are far more at risk. I think you are doing a diservice to our Danish friend.

Thanx!

[mmmdk]

I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

Listen, punk, of course (good) athletes do warmups...but apparently you've never been to an NFL game. Look at pre-game warmups by any unit - it's (at times) a joke! Some aren't even stretching out - even Favre has been notoriously lazy in pre-game warmups; Favre is lucky he's made of titanium but in resent years even he's had to get serious. McCarthy is all about pumping iron and it's not out the question that warmups get too little emphasis from Pittsburgh macho McCarthy. God, I hate you Online buddies who think they can "google" their way through life.

...maybe saying "punk" was uncalled for!?

[4and12to12and4]

This is just shit luck. Running as fast as you can in real game speed can never be replicated in practice. Shit happens. The Cub's Soriano has had two hamstring pulls this year missing many games. The trainers and staff all say that he stretches and runs and trains more than anyone on the team. So, sometimes, great athletes get into the moment and push themselved just a step further than they should trying to make a play and end up with a pulled muscle. It's happened to all of us who've played sports. I had so many friggin' muscle cramps running bases in my early thirties it was ridiculous. Now I don't stretch like these guys, but my muscles are 1/4 the size and and not even close to as fast as they are. These are the greatest athletes playing against one another. Everytime I see a hard hit, I'm surprised the guy gets up. Let's just hope they come back healthy so they don't reinjure said muscle. That would be stupid coaching.

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And one of those TDs was a magical throw by Manning. Just a ridiculously perfect ball. No one in the league breaks that play up.

Well, unless they're playing their coverage correctly any way.

That ball was thrown into double coverage. Watch the replay. It was a classic Favre toss, where he squeezes the ball where it ultimately shouldn't go and somehow makes an amazing play out of it.

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I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

Listen, punk, of course (good) athletes do warmups...but apparently you've never been to an NFL game. Look at pre-game warmups by any unit - it's (at times) a joke! Some aren't even stretching out - even Favre has been notoriously lazy in pre-game warmups; Favre is lucky he's made of titanium but in resent years even he's had to get serious. McCarthy is all about pumping iron and it's not out the question that warmups get too little emphasis from Pittsburgh macho McCarthy. God, I hate you Online buddies who think they can "google" their way through life.

I actually agree with you. My guess is the players don't stretch nearly as much as they should. Keep in mind to get a complete body stretch it can take an hour per day. They'd be a hell of a unit if the all put in that time.

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This is just shit luck. Running as fast as you can in real game speed can never be replicated in practice. Shit happens. The Cub's Soriano has had two hamstring pulls this year missing many games. The trainers and staff all say that he stretches and runs and trains more than anyone on the team. So, sometimes, great athletes get into the moment and push themselved just a step further than they should trying to make a play and end up with a pulled muscle. It's happened to all of us who've played sports. I had so many friggin' muscle cramps running bases in my early thirties it was ridiculous. Now I don't stretch like these guys, but my muscles are 1/4 the size and and not even close to as fast as they are. These are the greatest athletes playing against one another. Everytime I see a hard hit, I'm surprised the guy gets up. Let's just hope they come back healthy so they don't reinjure said muscle. That would be stupid coaching.

Well said. I agree completely with this as well.

[LEWCWA]

These guys make millions on the conditioning of their bodies. You can rest assured they do plenty of stretching and conditioning. Muscle pulls and strains happen and not just to the Packers....It is amazing to me that some would assume teams don't take this seriously when they are paying this kind of money!

[LEWCWA]

I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

Listen, punk, of course (good) athletes do warmups...but apparently you've never been to an NFL game. Look at pre-game warmups by any unit - it's (at times) a joke! Some aren't even stretching out - even Favre has been notoriously lazy in pre-game warmups; Favre is lucky he's made of titanium but in resent years even he's had to get serious. McCarthy is all about pumping iron and it's not out the question that warmups get too little emphasis from Pittsburgh macho McCarthy. God, I hate you Online buddies who think they can "google" their way through life.

Chill out dude! Your going to pull a brain string :P

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These guys make millions on the conditioning of their bodies. You can rest assured they do plenty of stretching and conditioning. Muscle pulls and strains happen and not just to the Packers....It is amazing to me that some would assume teams don't take this seriously when they are paying this kind of money!

I think the coaches and orgs take it seriously. I think the players take it for granted a lot. My guess is a lot of these guys are not in the best of shape coming into camp and are going full speed while unconditioned to do so. That is why pulls, strains, sprains and tears occur.

[MJZiggy]

Sheesh....

From Kffl

Packers | Franks limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:46:53 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers TE Bubba Franks (knee) was limited in practice Thursday, Sept. 20, but he is expected to play Week 3.

Packers | Jolly limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:46:34 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers DT Johnny Jolly (heel) was limited in practice Thursday, Sept. 20, and his status for Week 3 is uncertain.

Packers | Woodson misses practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:45:28 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers CB Charles Woodson (hip) missed the team's practice Thursday, Sept. 20. His status for Week 3 is uncertain.

Packers | C. Williams limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:44:55 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers DT Corey Williams (ankle) was limited during the team's practice Thursday, Sept. 20. He appears likely to play Week 3.

Packers | Jenkins limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:43:57 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers DT Cullen Jenkins (wrist) was limited during the team's practice Thursday, Sept. 20, but he appears likely to play Week 3.

Packers | Kampman limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:41:48 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers DE Aaron Kampman (ribs) was limited in practice Thursday, Sept. 20, but he is expected to play Week 3.

Packers | Rouse limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:39:46 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers S Aaron Rouse (hamstring) was limited during the team's practice Thursday, Sept. 20. He could be another week or two away from returning.

Packers | Moll limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:38:55 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers OT Tony Moll (neck) was limited in practice Thursday, Sept. 20. He might be available for backup duty Week 3.

Packers | Spitz limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:38:34 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers OG Jason Spitz (calf) was limited in practice Thursday, Sept. 20. He should be available for backup duty Week 3.

Packers | Jennings misses practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:36:05 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers WR Greg Jennings (hamstring) missed the team's practice Thursday, Sept. 20. He will take part in practice Friday, Sept. 21, and the team will not know about his chances to play Week 3 until later in the week.

Packers | Morency unable to practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:35:21 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers RB Vernand Morency (knee) was unable to do anything during practice Thursday, Sept. 20. His chances of playing Week 3 appear slim.

Packers | A. Harris misses practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:33:31 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers CB Al Harris (back) missed the team's practice Thursday, Sept. 20, but he appears likely to play Week 3.

Packers | Montgomery limited in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:32:59 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers DE Mike Montgomery (knee) was extremely limited in practice Thursday, Sept. 20. He is out for Week 3.

Packers | J. Jones injured in practice Thursday
Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:58:26 -0700

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports Green Bay Packers WR James Jones (hamstring) injured his hamstring during practice Thursday, Sept. 20. His availability for Week 3 is in doubt.

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They'll all be fine. He's giving them an easy week. Need to be at full energy for this week.

Anyone else think our receiving corps so far looks pretty good? Tight ends, as well.

[mmmdk]

These guys make millions on the conditioning of their bodies. You can rest assured they do plenty of stretching and conditioning. Muscle pulls and strains happen and not just to the Packers....It is amazing to me that some would assume teams don't take this seriously when they are paying this kind of money!

I think the coaches and orgs take it seriously. I think the players take it for granted a lot. My guess is a lot of these guys are not in the best of shape coming into camp and are going full speed while unconditioned to do so. That is why pulls, strains, sprains and tears occur.

Also very good arguments! Good posts!

[mmmdk]

I agree Tyrone, how lame....like professional athletes don't warmup and stretch....This is a tough fast physical game!

Listen, punk, of course (good) athletes do warmups...but apparently you've never been to an NFL game. Look at pre-game warmups by any unit - it's (at times) a joke! Some aren't even stretching out - even Favre has been notoriously lazy in pre-game warmups; Favre is lucky he's made of titanium but in resent years even he's had to get serious. McCarthy is all about pumping iron and it's not out the question that warmups get too little emphasis from Pittsburgh macho McCarthy. God, I hate you Online buddies who think they can "google" their way through life.

Chill out dude! Your going to pull a brain string :P

I love chill out music. :P