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  • #16
    I know it's easy to blame somebody, but Collins hasn't really giving up much either. Face it, the safety play is much better this year. Gates and Shockey killed us (against all kinds of different combinations), but they do that to a lot of teams. Woodson and Harris gave up plays in the first two games. Bush got beat a lot this game. To me, there's nothing wrong when you don't hear the safeties name--except on tackles. Bigby has been in the box more, so he's had more opportunities to make tackles. Would you rather have Manuel or Roman?
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    • #17
      Collins just doesn't seem like he is going to be a guy that is going to make or create big plays. He is consistent. He isn't going to be a Darren Sharper type who sits and cherry picks at the end of games or at half time, Collins doesn't have that good of hands.

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      • #18
        Announcers said something pre-game about Bigby. They said they were talking to Rivers and he mentioned Bigby as looking very good on the game tape.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          I know it's easy to blame somebody, but Collins hasn't really giving up much either. Face it, the safety play is much better this year. Gates and Shockey killed us (against all kinds of different combinations), but they do that to a lot of teams. Woodson and Harris gave up plays in the first two games. Bush got beat a lot this game. To me, there's nothing wrong when you don't hear the safeties name--except on tackles. Bigby has been in the box more, so he's had more opportunities to make tackles. Would you rather have Manuel or Roman?
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          • #20
            I was posting quite a bit near the end of last season that Collins is a great athlete who really has no clue when it comes to instincts at the S position. He misses tackles and he seems to always drop the pic.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by b bulldog
              I was posting quite a bit near the end of last season that Collins is a great athlete who really has no clue when it comes to instincts at the S position. He misses tackles and he seems to always drop the pic.
              He's not good in coverage at all. He's a great athelete and a powerfull tackler for a safety. He's not a complete player at all though.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                Bigby seems to be playing better than Collins. When Bigby gets beat, it's barely and he's right there, doing the right thing. When Collins gets beat, he looks lost and gets toasted. I'm disappointed in Collins.
                Very true; Manny to Plexiglass TD in week 2 had Bigby only by a hair.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  Rivers is a damn good passer.


                  Rivers collapsed down the stretch, and it wasn't due to coverage or pressure. He overthrew 2 guys and had a pick at crucial times. But he played well until then.
                  THe last pick to Barnett WAS pressure. He had his lineman pushed all the way into his grill and couldn't step into throw.

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