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  • "HARRELL, WAITING AND WATCHING""

    Watching and waiting
    Harrell yet to be activated
    By GREG A. BEDARD
    gbedard@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: Sept. 26, 2007

    Green Bay - In most NFL cities, every movement of the team's first-round pick is discussed and scrutinized.

    Despite his status as a first-round pick, defensive tackle Justin Harrell has not played a regular-season snap for the Packers.

    But with the Green Bay Packers off to a 3-0 start, the fact that defensive tackle Justin Harrell has yet to suit up for a game has barely been noticed.

    That is, by everyone but Harrell.

    "It's very disappointing," said Harrell, the 16th overall pick out of the University of Tennessee. "I feel like a freshman in college."

    The last time Harrell watched this much football without being injured was when he redshirted with the Volunteers in 2002.

    If Harrell needs to commiserate with other first-round picks about failing to make an immediate impact, he could call a couple of his former college teammates. Wide receiver Robert Meachem, the 27th overall pick by the New Orleans Saints, has been inactive for the first three games this season as well. And safety Jason Allen, taken in the same 16th spot by the Miami Dolphins in 2006, has never started a game.

    Those Volunteers are hardly the only first-round selections to sit as rookies. Dallas Cowboys linebacker Bobby Carpenter was inactive for three of his first five games after being picked 18th last year. And Kansas City Chiefs running back Larry Johnson suited up once in his first eight games in 2003.

    Harrell may be disappointed, but he insists he isn't frustrated. He understands that the Packers have four players in Ryan Pickett, Johnny Jolly, Corey Williams and Colin Cole who would be hard for any rookie to supplant.

    "It's one of the things about the NFL," Harrell said. "I'm a rookie and I just have to think of positive things and just keep working. I just have to keep getting ready for my shot."

    When the Packers drafted Harrell, he was still recovering from the ruptured biceps tendon that ended his senior season at Tennessee after just three games. The injury precluded Harrell from participating in off-season workouts, but he didn't help himself by showing up to training camp out of shape. And when he did get into the first three exhibition games, Harrell had to ask out because his conditioning wasn't where it needed to be.

    Just before the final game, defensive tackles coach Robert Nunn pulled Harrell aside.

    "He told me he was disappointed in me and that I needed to show more," Harrell said at the time.

    While Nunn said Harrell misunderstood the message, it worked nonetheless. Harrell had four tackles (three solo) - the most by a Packers tackle - against the Titans and returned a fumble 18 yards for a touchdown in the third quarter.

    "I talked to him about being patient," Nunn said. "I told him that we have to keep moving because expectations are there and rightfully so. I challenged him to respond and he's done that.

    "He's done everything I've asked him to do, truly."

    One of the players Harrell has relied on during this time is Williams, who was inactive for eight games his first two seasons with the Packers.

    "I think he's been doing a great job of handling it," Williams said. "He hasn't been the kind to be pouting. He's just been keeping a positive attitude. It's frustrating, you get mad at times, but you just have to know when they call your name, you have to be ready. He's got his head right. He's going to be prepared for when they call his name."

    Coach Mike McCarthy expects Harrell's time to come soon.

    "I think it's just a matter of time for him to get his opportunity," McCarthy said. "I'd be very comfortable if he was in there."
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    What kind of contract did Harrell sign?
    "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
    – Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      Well, Mr. Harrell.... you aren't the only one who is disappointed about your @ss sitting on the pine...

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      • #4
        I havent really been following the Saints, but why is Meachum inactive?
        Originally posted by 3irty1
        This is museum quality stupidity.

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        • #5
          He was banged up and after that I think he has stunk; looks like a few of those who were pounding for Bowe were right on that one so far
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            Bowe

            Originally posted by Bretsky
            He was banged up and after that I think he has stunk; looks like a few of those who were pounding for Bowe were right on that one so far

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zool
              I havent really been following the Saints, but why is Meachem inactive?
              I'm pretty sure he came into training camp looking like a defensive tackle rather than a wide receiver. Pretty much the same thing with Harrell, he was out of shape and didn't get much practice time in because of it. I think there also might have been a feigned injury issue that kept him off the field for some time.

              I remember people being really high on Meachem before the draft and I wanted nothing to do with him. I was always a big Dwayne Bowe guy and it looks like my choice is far far better. I really still wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Bowe on our team. We could have just resigned Williams and been set at tackle for the next few years, instead we're lacking a few pieces of offense and we have our first round draft pick gathering splinters with his ass.

              I've always been high on the Harrell pick, because I thought we needed more players for the rotation, and I'm sure Harrell will be fine, I'm sure he'll make his way into the rotation in front of Cole, but in retrospect we really could have used Dwayne Bowe, Greg Olsen, or a guy like Darrell Revis or Leon Hall would have really shored up a sore spot on our team.

              Adding another CB instead of another tackle who we don't use would have made our defense outstanding, and we'd have a future replacement for Chuck or Al.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OS PA
                I remember people being really high on Meachem before the draft.
                (cough)B-curse(cough)
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #9
                  Right now the Packers look a little foolish for taking Harrell. If he was so good why can't he beat out Colin Cole or Johnny Jolly? The Packers had no need at tackle and TT took him any ways. Their were safeties out there and other defensive backs that could have been given serious consideration. Harris and Woodson are no spring Chickens, both have about one more solid year in them barring injury. Harris' back is been given him fits all season and the Packers have seriously no real deal replacement for either of the two corners.

                  The defensive tackle the Packers have either are young veterans, or under long term contracts, why draft Harrell?

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                  • #10
                    Do you think if do overs were allowed in hindsight, seeing how other DT's have developed, do you think TT deep down wishes he had picked someone more immediately impactful instead of Harrell?

                    I know what he would go on record saying, but that's TT-speak, and he's never going to admit a mistake like that because the guy is now under contract. But, you have to wonder if he has any regrets that he ponders, or if he really still does think in his mind, this was the best pick I could have made for the long term.

                    As long as the team is going good, who cares, I guess, but it sure would be nice to have someone like Bowe...of course then we may not have had the nice surprise of James Jones. A young corner would have been nice; can't have too many good ones. The TE from Miami would have been nice too; matchup problems o'plenty.
                    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                    • #11
                      I don't get it. Why are you ripping on the Packers on what the Packers should have picked in the draft as the Packers are 3-0 and WILL GO 4-0 after winning their game this week against the Vikes in the Dome. The player that was really impressive so far has been James Jones. Jackson has not produced and further more the O-line has looked mediocore at best. In the Running game that is. Pass protection has been good. When we beat the Vikings this week and play the Bears the following week on National TV we could stand 5-0 with Washington on the Packers slate next. Could we be 6-0 heading into the bye? Right now we are in the same company as Colts and Patriots as far as the power rankings go.

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                      • #12
                        With the way Jones is playing, I'm not sure why there is a beef in TT's passing on Bowe and Meachem. TT has shown a good eye for receivers.

                        With the way Jackson is playng maybe a more legit beef would be in TT not being more aggressive in trying to trade up to get Lynch.

                        Harrel a head-scratcher, indeed. But as the saying goes, we'll see in 3 years how this class plays out. Hell even the 2005 class is looking better with Collins, Poppinga and Coston Even Rodgers is looking like the future starter he should be. And lets not forget losing a 2nd and 4th rounder to injuries
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                        • #13
                          It's not so much a rip on the Packers as it is a rip on 3T. Before the pick, after the pick, it doesn't really matter. There are not very many supporters of taking Harrell in the first round. More over, there were more pressing needs at the time and once again 3T did what he wanted and not what was in the best interests of the team. If we go 4-0 or 19-0 or 3-13, it doesn't matter. It was a wasted pick then and it is a wasted pick now. That's why I asked how much his contract was worth. How much on the hook are we for this guy and for how many years if we end up cutting him? There were much better options on the board and 3T took the worst option available. It isn't helping us win games sure, but we added depth at the only position we had depth. And people call this guy smart?
                          "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                          – Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                            Right now the Packers look a little foolish for taking Harrell. If he was so good why can't he beat out Colin Cole or Johnny Jolly? The Packers had no need at tackle
                            This pretty well sums it up. The "best player available" theory doesn't work when the "best player" can't crack a 10-deep depth chart.

                            It's like this: Justin Harrell is a major disappointment. If he does not become a STARTER next year, he is a major flop.

                            I don't expect every player to be a great or even good pick, it is largely a crap shoot. I trust TT had good reason to pick Harrell. And maybe we'll find out next year that all is rosy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Merlin
                              It's not so much a rip on the Packers as it is a rip on 3T. Before the pick, after the pick, it doesn't really matter. There are not very many supporters of taking Harrell in the first round. More over, there were more pressing needs at the time and once again 3T did what he wanted and not what was in the best interests of the team. If we go 4-0 or 19-0 or 3-13, it doesn't matter. It was a wasted pick then and it is a wasted pick now. That's why I asked how much his contract was worth. How much on the hook are we for this guy and for how many years if we end up cutting him? There were much better options on the board and 3T took the worst option available. It isn't helping us win games sure, but we added depth at the only position we had depth. And people call this guy smart?
                              If Harrell makes the Pro Bowl in 3 years was it a wasted pick? and coming back and saying it won't happen is an invalid answer. So is saying he won't crack the lineup.
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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