"HARRELL, WAITING AND WATCHING""

[superfan]

There is only one prediction I can make with any certainty - this thread will end up in the GC by the end of the week.

[GBRulz]

Ya know what I don't like about what seems to be going on so much lately is this " I told you so" type attitude. The whole philosophy of people trying to plot people against one another in hopes of proving them wrong is getting old. Way old.

[GBRulz]

Harrell could very easily turn out to be a perennial Pro Bowl talent 2-3 years down the line...and you would sit here and claim that is a waste simply because he wasn't a world beater in year 1?

The fact of the matter is that the depth on our DL is a huge advantage. Harrell's drafting likely ensures that depth will remain into the future...regardless of what happens down the road.

I'm willing to give Harrell a couple years to develop before I write him off as a wasted pick.

No where did I say he has to be a "world beater" in year 1. Once again, you have to put words in people's mouths to get your point across.

Yes, I am concerened about Harrell. We pay him a boatload of money, he comes into camp out of shape, is so far down the depth chart that he has yet to be activated for a game. Yes, I am worried about him being a bust. Draft picks are nothing more than a lottery, some you hit on, some you don't.

But yes, if we are 1 playmaker away from a SB run and we have this DL who hasn't been activated all year, where we could have been grooming a higher position of need, then yes...it's a waste. I'm impatient.

[Partial]

Who cares?? We're 3-0 without our first round pick playing. Last time I checked not having to rely on rookies is a GOOD thing. We're in first place and JH is working his butt off to crack the lineup. We have such amazing depth at the position that he will have to work harder and be better than he ever has before.

We can worry about what Harrell can and cannot do when the time comes where he gets his shot. Right now, the chief concern should be the Vikings and Justin Harrell shouldn't be anywhere on our radar. My chief concern this weekend is containing Peterson. I think they'll run a lot of screens behind McKinnie and Hutch and that could cause a lot of problems with their sheer size.

[RashanGary]

Ya know what I don't like about what seems to be going on so much lately is this " I told you so" type attitude. The whole philosophy of people trying to plot people against one another in hopes of proving them wrong is getting old. Way old.

That's how reputations are built, GBR. I've had a few things bite me in the ass. You've spent enough time at forums where you should know how these things work. You say something in a loud, confident manner and people are going to remember what you said and remind you when it's wrong. Anyone who thinks they have the answers better be ready to take the flack if it's wrong. The smart thing to do is just admit you were wrong and maybe even learn something by being wrong. It just goes away at that point. If you keep doing the same things expecting different results than people will continue to hold you responsible for your inaccuracies.

I was saying Hawk was a better player than Barnett for two weeks. After the 3rd week of Barnett outplaying Hawk it was pretty clear that I was wrong at this point in their careers. I just admitted it and moved on. Nobody has to bring it back up to me because I don't keep going out and saying the same things over and over. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that if I started a thread about Barnett being overrated that I'd be torn up.

You doom and gloomers have complained about every move Ted Thompson has made and overtime you are wrong more often than not. Now you are complaining about the Harrell pick before he's even had a year in the NFL. It's par for the course for the doom and gloom crowd, but don't be suprised when time proves you wrong again. I don't know what will happen, but Ted's history suggests that there is a higher likelyhood of good than bad.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You doom and gloomers have complained about every move Ted Thompson has made and overtime you are wrong more often than not.

If you look at the most common, specific complaints, the complainers have arguably been correct.

No Moss.
No veteran running back.
Poor pick of Harrell.

the overall job TT has done looks favorable. Very few people have dismissed him as a GM.

[RashanGary]

You doom and gloomers have complained about every move Ted Thompson has made and overtime you are wrong more often than not.

If you look at the most common, specific complaints, the complainers have arguably been correct.

No Moss (we have Greg Jennings and Jones)
No veteran running back (is a problem for at least 1/2 of a year, probably a year)
Poor pick of Harrell (you have no clue and I'd bet you are wrong)

For all of the complaints, Ted has gotten answers. Different answers than you would have liked, but functional answers none the less. Enough to field what looks to be a playoff competitive team. The magic that you are missing is that Ted has built a contender without many short term patches, instead focusing on long term answers. The big picture is that the whining and doom and gloom was meaningless. Look at the record predictions of these poeople, you included. You were very likely wrong in your guess of how this team was being built.

The goal was to build a winnign team and the doom and gloomers have claimed that Ted was not doing that. The fact of the matter is that he did. They complained about the Collins pick. They complained about the Jennings pick. They complained about the Jones pick. They complain about everything. They are wrong on most, but you did a nice job bringing up the three things that they were at least right on in the short term. Let's see how your arguements holds up over time. I'll be here.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The magic that you are missing is that Ted has built a contender without many short term patches .

TT's ultra-conservative approach has not gone unnoticed by anyone.

And it's not "Ted". "Mr. Thompson" to you. Unless he is one of your boys.

Look at the record predictions of these poeople, you included. You were very likely wrong in your guess of how this team was being built .

Your statement is WAY too sweeping. I predicted they would go 8-8 because they wouldn't be able to win without a running game.

[RashanGary]

And you predicted wrong. You will be even more wrong if you keep on the doom and gloom train.

You will never look more right than you do right now and you don't even look very right, right now. I'm curious to see this thing unfold, I'll bet you want it decided right now.

[Scott Campbell]

That's invalid. I want an answer to the question: if Harrell makes the pro bowl in 3 years is he a wasted pick?

no.

and if he has 10 children, he's not impotent.

And how many children do you have Harlan?

[Harlan Huckleby]

You will never look more right than you do right now

you romantic devil

[Scott Campbell]

I don't understand why there's such a big hurry to judge this pick. Were 3 games into his pro football career. I'm just going to wait and see how he pans out.

[Harlan Huckleby]

And how many children do you have Harlan?

see above

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't understand why there's such a big hurry to judge this pick. Were 3 games into his pro football career. I'm just going to wait and see how he pans out.

an inactive first rounder is noteworthy

[RashanGary]

Many here take the wait and see approach.

I and a few others support the approach that Ted Thompson is taking.

Others have insistend that his inepness would prevent the Packers from having a winning season.

That is the the main arguement that has been going on this season. There are details that can appear to fall either way but the record and overall picture is what it is. It will be decided in over the next few months and then further cemented over the next few years.