I bet a guy that throws for 12 TDs and 7 interceptions in 500 throws gets a worse passer rating than a guy that throws for 25 TDs and 15 interceptions. Give me the guy who scores.
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I am not going down this road but all I will say is that in my opinion, Brady would have won more than one ring in GB during the last 17 years
Keep bashing Brady, he will probably have four rings by years end.
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thats such a moronic statement... I live in New England, this bozo has been handed his superbowls by managing the game... THEY ALWAYS HAD A D to bail them out...Originally posted by b bulldogI am not going down this road but all I will say is that in my opinion, Brady would have won more than one ring in GB during the last 17 years
Keep bashing Brady, he will probably have four rings by years end.
Sure he'd lead the team down the field 20/30 yards for a FG... Ill give him that...
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All I will say is that Brady never had the number one ranked D when he won a sb and he never had a weapon like D Howard on the field either. I will no longer post on this subject because it is not worth it
I am happy that Brett is playing very well and also that Brady is, very hapy for both. Actually Harry Sydney was the guyt that said that about Brady, I stole it from him on 107.5, the fan. Time to move on, we can agree to disagree
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Nah Id like to backup my facts...
Superbowl vs eagles : The D won
McSoup : 3 INT's
Superbowl vs Panters : Ill give it to Brady, but all he had to do was manage the game...
Delhomme had a good game, but Brady only had to go 30 yards after Kasay kicked it out of bounds on the kickoff...
Who finished that game out??? FG Vinatieri 41, 14:56
Superbowl vs Rams : OH DID THE D SHOW UP AND WIN!!!
Warner : 2 INT
Law 47 interception return (Vinatieri kick)
Who sealed the game once again??? FG Vinatieri 48, 15:00
Brady only put up 147 yards and 1 TD... PLEASE, Any quarterback could have put those numbers up...
Sure Brady is a good Quarterback but he did not lead his team to all three Superbowls... I'll give him the Carolina one, but even that, he only had to go 30 yards to close it out... The other two he road his D to the rings...
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Didn't Des Howard seal one super bowl in nEW oRLEANS ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO WITH A SECOND HALF RETURN
be careful what you post. Time to move on!
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I'm not going to rip Brady, but you don't listen bulldog. We've gone over this. Brady deserves his credit, but you are vastly skewing the stats.
Favre had the #1 ranked defense once (and they won the Super Bowl). Other than that, he's had a good defense 2 or 3 of those years and a mediocre or worst defense the other years. Do you deny that?
Brady didn't have the #1 defense if your rankings are based on yardage allowed. Do you think that is the best barometer to gauge a defense?
2004 - New England's defense allowed the 2nd fewest points in the league, were 3rd in forced fumbles, 7th in interceptions, 3rd in sacks. That was easily a top 3 defense in the league--if not the best. Do you want to deny that?
2003 - New England's defense allowed the fewest points in the league, led the league in forced turnovers, 6th in sacks. That was easily a top 3 in the league--if not the best. Do you want to deny that?
2001 - New England's defense allowed the 6th fewest points in the league, 6th in interceptions. That team wasn't a great defense, but they snuck up on people and won some close, tight games in the playoffs. Vinatieri was gold. Brady actually struggled in that Super Bowl, didn't he?
Brady deserves his credit, but to insinuate that Brady hasn't had more help than Favre is ludicrous."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I am tickled pink, two of my favorite qb's are playing very well and the third puts up ugly numbers but seems to always snare a W.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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Favre has better stats in his two Super Bowls than Brady had in his three Super Bowls. I guess it's easy when you have great personnel around you. Let's face it, Brady's had better defenses and special teams surrounding him than Favre has had most of his career. If you can't admit that, then you just show that you are biased.Originally posted by b bulldogDidn't Des Howard seal one super bowl in nEW oRLEANS ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO WITH A SECOND HALF RETURN
be careful what you post. Time to move on!
Brady is a great player though. I take nothing away from him. Like Montana, he's been put in a better situation than most of the great QBs, but give him credit for playing clutch and taking advantage."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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FAVRE had the greatest Dlinemen ever on his team which led the D to the number one ranking and he also had the ultimate special teams weapon in Des Howard who even Sean Jones said after the game that he was the teams MVP and that they don't win this game without him. I;m sure you'll say that Jones didn't know what he was talking about but if you watch the game, New England was stuffing our O and was moving the ball on O until Howard changed the game with his reurn which was the dagger which gave the team the lombardi trophy.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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Harv i always get a real big kick on how you think what ever you post is the truth. the fact remains and you can say you don't like this stat but it reaalu doesn't matter what you think but Brett won his ring when he had the number one D and the ultimate deamon on ST's who won the 49ers game and the sb.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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What's your point?Originally posted by b bulldogHarv i always get a real big kick on how you think what ever you post is the truth. the fact remains and you can say you don't like this stat but it reaalu doesn't matter what you think but Brett won his ring when he had the number one D and the ultimate deamon on ST's who won the 49ers game and the sb."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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You act like Favre was a bit piece in the Super Bowl crown. Didn't he throw for 39 TDs and 13 picks that year? Didn't he win the MVP? Didn't he score 3 TDs (2 pass, 1 rush) in the Super Bowl without a turnover?
Maybe not. That was my recollection."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Brady has had a better d during most of his career and also ST's but the Packers should have beated Denver and they would have had a greta chance to go to another if the Phily debacle didn't happen. remeber the heave in OT, that was one of his worse int of his career. the same could be said about Brady in last years game against Indy when he threw his pic. My point is this, if the best D player ever plays with a top 5 qb ever and are coached by a hofer, they should have won more than one sb. That is really what it comes down to
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