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    I didn't get to see much of the game. When I did it was at a crowded bar with a limited view. One of the first plays I saw, was James Jones TD catch.

    What struck me on this play is that when Brett threw the ball, I immediately thought it was over-thrown. But James accelerated, caught the ball in stride, and went in for the TD. He made it look easy.

    Marcus McCauley was covering him at the time and Jones left him in the dust. Both of these men are rookies, Marcus was much more highly tauted in part because of his athletic skills. He ran a 4.36 at the combine. Our Jones was in the mid 4.5s and even in the 4.6s and thus was down graded in the draft. Yet here he is, blowing past 'faster' players in a live game.

    I know there is such thing as 'game speed' but I think it has more to do with the predraft training. I think these guys specifically work out to improve their 40 times. Once they are drafted they stop and work on getting into more general football shape.

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    Re: James Jones TD

    Originally posted by cheesner
    I know there is such thing as 'game speed' but I think it has more to do with the predraft training. I think these guys specifically work out to improve their 40 times.
    Yup. Better Combine numbers means more money in the pocket, as most teams seem enamored with Combine numbers. TT doesn't seem to be one of those.

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    • #3
      mccauley was frozen by favre's pumpfake while jones kept running. when mcauley realized what happened it was too late to recover. still, it didnt look good when he stopped chasing jones as soon as he saw him catch the ball.
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      • #4
        James Jones made a beautiful grap on that pass to get a TD.

        He has potential.
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        • #5
          That was the same play they ran earlier where Favre got into Jones face, yelling at him for running the wrong route. Favre on that play through it deep but Jones cut the route off.

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          • #6
            Re: James Jones TD

            Originally posted by cheesner
            I didn't get to see much of the game. When I did it was at a crowded bar with a limited view. One of the first plays I saw, was James Jones TD catch.

            What struck me on this play is that when Brett threw the ball, I immediately thought it was over-thrown. But James accelerated, caught the ball in stride, and went in for the TD. He made it look easy.

            Marcus McCauley was covering him at the time and Jones left him in the dust. Both of these men are rookies, Marcus was much more highly tauted in part because of his athletic skills. He ran a 4.36 at the combine. Our Jones was in the mid 4.5s and even in the 4.6s and thus was down graded in the draft. Yet here he is, blowing past 'faster' players in a live game.

            I know there is such thing as 'game speed' but I think it has more to do with the predraft training. I think these guys specifically work out to improve their 40 times. Once they are drafted they stop and work on getting into more general football shape.
            Ron Wolfs view of 40 times:

            "You need a baseline, a common denominator, and that's what 40 times are. They are like minimum qualifying standards.

            So college players finish their senior seasons and have their agent hire a speed coach like Turner, or enroll them in one of several speed schools (at upward of $10,000) for the sole purpose of lowering their 40 time by two-tenths of a second. They learn how to start. They learn how to run with their feet higher off the ground, which goes against accepted football practice of low, quick feet necessary for rapid changes of direction."
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            • #7
              Thats the thing I love about JJ, he is great at catching the ball with his hands.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FritzDontBlitz
                mccauley was frozen by favre's pumpfake while jones kept running. when mcauley realized what happened it was too late to recover. still, it didnt look good when he stopped chasing jones as soon as he saw him catch the ball.
                No, McCaulley had hs back to the play. The safety was frozen by the fake, but Marcus was just half a step behind a much bigger man the entire way. I really like JJ, but he isn't in the same league as DD and GJ when it comes to YAC.

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                • #9
                  McCauley looks like he is going to be special. Minnesota really hit a homerun with their draft.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    McCauley looks like he is going to be special. Minnesota really hit a homerun with their draft.
                    I'd like to see JJ get ROY!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brandon494
                      Thats the thing I love about JJ, he is great at catching the ball with his hands.
                      Not only catching the ball with his hands, but his hands are very strong in being able to hold onto the ball. He reminds me very much of Lee Evans' hand strength.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LL2
                        I'd like to see JJ get ROY!
                        Unless Adrian Peterson gets hurt, I don't see that happening.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Originally posted by LL2
                          I'd like to see JJ get ROY!
                          Unless Adrian Peterson gets hurt, I don't see that happening.
                          I was going to say the same thing.

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                          • #14
                            With Childress as his coach, anything is possible. Actually, I think JJ probably has little chance of keeping pace with Bowe. Bowe is clearly KC's most talented WR, whereas JJ is probably no better than #3 on the Pack as long as Jennings is healthy.
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                            • #15
                              Re: James Jones TD

                              Originally posted by Patler
                              Originally posted by cheesner
                              I know there is such thing as 'game speed' but I think it has more to do with the predraft training. I think these guys specifically work out to improve their 40 times.
                              Yup. Better Combine numbers means more money in the pocket, as most teams seem enamored with Combine numbers. TT doesn't seem to be one of those.
                              TT is on record saying that he was telling people in the draft room to remind him not to get carried away with combine numbers - he said he wanted to draft football players. I think that was in direct response to questions about trading with NE and drafting Jennings rather than whatshisface who Belicheat picked.
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