Official Winners and Losers Week 4

[MJZiggy]

Here it is, folks!

by Deputy Nutz

On a day when an historic record fell, that feat was quickly set aside to review defense alignment and scheme and to get ready for the next series of offensive downs. Brett Favre's play today backed up his statement that he isn't playing for the records. He is and always has been about winning football games and READ MORE.

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Bigby forced that fumble, too. He had a really great game. Great article!

[RashanGary]

Nice summary. I'll 3rd the Bigby love. I can't believe how far he's stepped up. He has to be the most pleasant suprise so far this season.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Good writeup. Four things I disagree with or would add onto:

1) Jon Ryan should be on the winner's list. Three really good punts, and one poor one. Great play on the fake.
2) As mentioned above, Bigby also forced the fumble by Dugan.
3) Harris is tough, but I think Double D has the second toughest Packer category wrapped up.
4) Minnesota had 1 timeout with around 1:55 left when Green Bay took over, so Green Bay had to go for a first down. If you kneel down, you leave around 30-35 seconds left on the clock for them to get something fluky. You can't expect a fumble there.

Bigby has been mostly solid, so have the TEs and James Jones. Of the four positions (WR, TE, S, and RB) that Packer fans were clamoring for FAs to be signed, the only position that looks noticeably weak is at RB. We need Vernand Morency and/or Ryan Grant to step up. I think they have the potential to do so.

[the_idle_threat]

Well done, Deputy.

Although i think the 'queens had one timeout left when Grant fumbled, which might explain why McCarthy was calling run. They may have needed one more 1st down in order to take a knee.

Edit: Harv beat me to it.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Great write up, I agree with just about everything.

Also, I agree that Harris has to be at least tie with Driver as second toughest. That guy just refuses to leave the game. If we had 53 guys like Favre, Driver, and Harris, this team would scare the living hell out of people.

If we didn't have Harris on defense we would be nothing. I really wish he was younger, but hopefully he plays like this for at least one more season.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers had a minute 50 left and the Vikings had no time outs when Grant fumbled.

[pittstang5]

Great analysis Nutz.

I'm really worried about Bush's play lately. It's obvious that QBs are throwing to him and with good reason...his man is always open. Maybe it's time to see what Blackmon or one of the other back ups can do.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think Bush will be all right, the coaches have faith in him at this point and if they truly felt Blackmon was better he would be playing right now. Bush doesn't have a lot of experience so he is learning on the fly, as long as he corrects his mistakes and learns from them I guess I am alright with that.

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I also think Mason Crosby is 7/8, not 6/7. I could be wrong, though. And not that it really makes any difference at all. Just my analness.

[MJZiggy]

I also think Mason Crosby is 7/8, not 6/7. I could be wrong, though. And not that it really makes any difference at all. Just my analness.

You need to stop talking about your anal considering you're going to be spending the weekend sleeping in a room with another man...

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Packers had a minute 50 left and the Vikings had no time outs when Grant fumbled.

By then, it was second down though. Grant had already run up the gut for 2 yards. Any way you shake it, if you kneel down, the Vikes get the ball back with 30 seconds left.

[Little Whiskey]

The Packers had a minute 50 left and the Vikings had no time outs when Grant fumbled.

By then, it was second down though. Grant had already run up the gut for 2 yards. Any way you shake it, if you kneel down, the Vikes get the ball back with 30 seconds left.

30 sec. left and you have to go 80 yards is better than a fumble on the 40 yard line

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Packers had a minute 50 left and the Vikings had no time outs when Grant fumbled.

By then, it was second down though. Grant had already run up the gut for 2 yards. Any way you shake it, if you kneel down, the Vikes get the ball back with 30 seconds left.

30 sec. left and you have to go 80 yards is better than a fumble on the 40 yard line

You can as easily get a punt blocked or hike the ball over the punter's head or fumble the snap to the QB, for that matter. They can't played scared. The exchange should have been handled.

[Harlan Huckleby]

as long as you got Woodson listed as a loser, I will pile on. (I like to kick 'um when they're down.)

His punt returns often consist of him making a bee-line for the sideline. (When he does attempt to gain yardage, he's pretty decent at it, but he doesn't try very often.)

In the grand scheme, this might be the best move. But if he's too valuable to return punts, surely there is somebody else on the team who can catch a ball and run forward. Activate Chris Francies and give him extra padding.