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  • #31
    Shadow DOES know. Jim Brown was the greatest all-time rusher of the football over his career. He was the Cleveland Browns in his era. He made them a contender almost single-handedly. He was powerful, explosive, could break a long one at anytime, consistent, money. And he could catch the ball. Did he ever get hurt? Doesn't seem like it.

    I always regarded Nitschke and Butkus as the best middle linebackers of all time. Not much difference between them in ferocity or desire. Still, my favorite linebacker of all time is Dave Robinson. He was big, fast and a game breaker. He played way before his time. I didn't get to see a lot of Lawrence Taylor, but Robinson was every bit as dominant from what I remember and saw with my own eyes.

    Sam Huff? A pretender and cheap-shot artist. You didn't game plan against him. You watched your back.

    However, if we're just considering "football players," regardless of position -- by this I mean guys who could just flat out play, had a nose for the game, had courage, talent, and could make a difference in every game they appeared in -- these are the guys who would be picked first if all the players in history were standing around in a school yard choosing sides -- I'd choose Brett Favre first. He's the best "player" I've ever seen. Paul Hornung would be a close second.

    If you needed to gain 5 yards in a make or break situation, yeah I'd hand the ball off to Jim Brown. And if I had to stop Brown, sure I'd trust Dick Butkus or Ray Nitschke to make the stop, take your pick. But if I needed a game-winning TD, I'd hand the ball to Brett Favre or Paul Hornung and watch, no question. Both are/were at their best in the clutch. Both are/were a pleasure to watch play the game. They're pure winners.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mraynrand
      Best Football Player ever:


      Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

      I have two claims to fame in sports, and you've given me an excuse to tell both stories.

      I was a pretty good wrestler when I was a whipper-snapper. My first story is I beat Tim Krumrie in high school wrestling (it was before he got really good) Later I wrestled heavy weight at a college where Otto Graham was athletic director, recently retired as football coach. He tried to convince me to play football. (He had no idea that I am crappy at football, never had explosiveness in the legs.)

      I scorned Otto Graham!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        My first story is I beat Tim Krumrie in high school wrestling
        Did you play football and shut down Darren Charles also?


        Cool stories.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #34
          You "Scored" on Otto Graham?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Did you play football and shut down Darren Charles also?
            oh man, that was the best story ever. I really miss Tank, no kidding. If only to watch the veins in KYPack's forehead pop out.

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            • #36
              Blue Dog, I'm a big Otto Graham fan, so tell me, was he a good guy, a jerk, full of himself or what? Throw us a friggin' bone here, will ya?

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              • #37
                My athletic claim to fame with respect to the Packers is that I took a charge from Darrel Thompson playing intramural B-Ball at the U. Later I scored a three point play off him - he fouled me hard on a drive in the lane - sent me flying across the floor and into the wall behind the backboard. Came over, pulled me up and said he was sorry.

                Oh, BTW, He later kicked the shit out of Darren Charles.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #38
                  I played a few pickup games of football with Darryl back when we were in HS. He was a man amongst boys out there.
                  Originally posted by 3irty1
                  This is museum quality stupidity.

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                  • #39
                    Well easy for me.

                    Top of my list are:

                    Brett Favre
                    Ray Nitschke
                    Reggie White
                    Sterling Sharpe
                    Gayle Sayers
                    Fran Tarkenton
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Noodle
                      Blue Dog, I'm a big Otto Graham fan, so tell me, was he a good guy, a jerk, full of himself or what? Throw us a friggin' bone here, will ya?
                      Yeah, tell more. Otto was a frickin' stud. What was it - 6 NFL championship games, winning three and I think 5 championships in the AAFL (or whatever it was called). He also played both ways, getting quite a few INTs. Plus, I love it that he's wearing #60.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        Later I wrestled heavy weight at a college where Otto Graham was athletic director, recently retired as football coach.
                        Wasn't this the Coast Guard Academy? Don't tell us you're actually a serviceman in disguise. Semper paratus 'Always ready', isn't that the coast guard motto?
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by mraynrand
                          Plus, I love it that he's wearing #60.
                          Exactly! That right there tells you he was just a flat out player. A lot of folks who know put Graham at the top of their lists for greatest QB of all time.

                          This got me thinking some more. Don't folks recall how terrifying LT was in his day? Dude absolutely changed the game, as much if not more than Reggie.

                          I should also give some respect to Deion Sanders. Not a hitter, but the guy was poetry in motion, sort of a Gayle Sayers at DB/PR. His hype overshadows what a really good player he was.

                          And how can Bo Jackson not be on a short list? I'll never forget his TD run where he kept going all the way through the tunnel.

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                          • #43
                            I once wrestled Pam Oliver.
                            She kicked my ass.
                            Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                            • #44
                              Well, to be fair to you, she probably had 50 pounds on you.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mraynrand
                                My athletic claim to fame with respect to the Packers is that I took a charge from Darrel Thompson playing intramural B-Ball at the U.
                                I came almost that close. I was manning the Darrel Thompson Fan Club. (Sort of joke on the old Packer Internet News group) and his dad used to correspond with me in email. He was in Rochester, MN.

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