Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Verba in GB: update, after minicamp TT feels ok at OG

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Verba in GB: update, after minicamp TT feels ok at OG

    Update :


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    This is from Bob McGinn in the Journal today. After the minicamp, the interest in Verba appears to have waned :

    "Standing pat: Don't look for the Packers to add a veteran offensive lineman. They recently worked out a familiar face, former Packer Ross Verba, and have discussed former Saint guard Kendyl Jacox.

    Verba, 32, sat out last season after being waived by Cleveland on June 9. He demanded more money. When the Browns wouldn't deliver, they cut him.

    "We had him in for a visit," Thompson said. "I won't get into it other than to say he looked fine."

    Verba generally started at left tackle from 2001-'04, although he missed all of '03 with a torn biceps. He was the Packers' left tackle from 1997-'99 and their left guard in 2000.

    Thompson appeared to be relatively pleased with the Packers' situation at guard after the minicamp.

    "I think we're going to have some interesting competition," he said. "We wanted to try to get some competition going.

    "(Daryn) Colledge looked all right. He got better every day, which is kind of what you want to see from young guys. He's a tough guy and he's smart. Same with Spitz.

    "We've always looked at Tony Moll as more of a tackle. He's very gifted athletically.""





    Packers take another look at Verba
    By Pete Dougherty
    PackersNews.com

    Ross Verba might be back in the NFL this year, and there’s a chance it could be with the team that drafted him, the Green Bay Packers.

    Verba, 32, an offensive lineman who was the Packers’ first-round draft pick in 1997, was out of football last year but has talked to several teams about returning this season.

    He recently worked out for the Packers, but apparently has not been offered a contract. Despite the year’s layoff, Verba looked more than capable of playing.

    The Packers are interested in Verba as a potential starter at guard, where they have two open jobs.

    “He’s an athletic guy. Very athletic guy,” said offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski, who was the Packers’ tight ends coach during Verba’s final two seasons in Green Bay, 1999 and 2000. “A little bit older guy, but the (scouts) wanted to bring him in and see what he looked like. I think he’s still got something in him.”

    The 6-foot-4, 305-pound Verba is the smaller, more athletic kind of lineman the Packers want for their new zone-blocking scheme. They don’t appear to have major concerns about Verba’s conditioning after the year off. He has started 100 of 106 games over eight seasons.

    At this weekend’s minicamp, second-round draft pick Daryn Colledge is starting at left guard, and second-year pro Junius Coston is starting at right guard. Other candidates are Will Whitticker, who started 14 games at right guard as a rookie last season but probably lacks the mobility to win that job in the zone-blocking scheme; Kevin Barry, a fifth-year pro who’s battling a weight problem; and Jason Spitz, a third-round draft pick.

    A friend of Verba’s, Dr. D.S. Ping, said there’s genuine interest from Verba and the Packers.

    Arizona and Tampa Bay also are interested in Verba, who wants to sign in the next week or two so he can get some offseason work with a team before training camp opens in July.

    Ping, an NFL agent, doesn’t represent Verba but talks to him regularly.

    “He’s ready to play a couple more years,” Ping said Saturday. “He just got tired of being in Cleveland.”

    Verba played tackle for the Packers from 1997 to 2000 but left in free agency because former coach Mike Sherman moved him to guard. He played for the Browns from 2001 to 2004, then sat out last year after the Browns’ new management refused to upgrade his contract, which he said the previous regime had promised.

    Verba wanted out of Cleveland so badly that he repaid a $465,000 roster bonus and walked away from a $2.925 million salary so he could become a free agent. However, he miscalculated his worth. When he didn’t get any contract offers he considered adequate, he decided not to play last year.

    Instead, coming off a divorce, he made news and gossip columns during his year off with a major change to a fast-lane, party-oriented lifestyle.

    If General Manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy decide Verba will fit in with the Packers, they could make a run at signing him.

    Verba’s year out of football leaves him with relatively little contract leverage. It’s unclear whether he’ll come back for a bargain-rate deal loaded with incentives or insist on a more substantial signing bonus. If Verba is adamant about the latter, he could be difficult to sign.





    more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

  • #2
    Pull the trigger TT!!!! This move could mean making the playoffs. At this point Verba would fill the need I am most worried about.

    Comment


    • #3
      Sign him.

      We need lineman and Verbs can fill in until one of the young guys is ready.

      I've always felt Ross was frozen out by the leagues "suits" because of his contract buy-out. The GM's don't want to reward a guy who tells an organization to get screwed (Ignore the TO deal here).

      I think Verbs was a victim of collusion.

      Comment


      • #4
        Hey if Verba signs that would be AWESOME! Party at Verba's house!!! He won't be there, but there will be plenty 'o wine, women and whiskey!
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by mraynrand
          Hey if Verba signs that would be AWESOME! Party at Verba's house!!! He won't be there, but there will be plenty 'o wine, women and whiskey!
          I AGREE.

          And sign him if we can; he's always been a solid player but with a me first attitude. If he can come in here with an improved attitude he'd be worth the shot and in all probability our best OG.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

          Comment


          • #6
            He's a vet. He's seen action. He knows the game.

            He may be in shape but he's probably not in great shape. He's an ass hole.



            With that being said, he would be a great addition to the line and IMO a prime canidate to replace Klemm. I don't think the Packers want to keep too many older stop gaps around because they probably want to keep room for Spitz, Coston, White ect.....

            If he's in really good shape like the article suggests, he would be a perfect fit for our scheme and an instant huge upgrade over any rookie or first year guy. One rookie on the line each year is more than enough.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

            Comment


            • #7
              Character Alarm ringing my head off!!!

              Comment


              • #8
                If Verba has something left, this would be a logical move. Although I think Colledge and Coston have bright futures, I have been a little nervous about possibly starting two guards who have no NFL starting experience at all.
                I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tarlam!
                  Character Alarm ringing my head off!!!

                  I would have to agree with Tarlam considering the divorce, party life style, me-first, team-second attitude.

                  TT and McCarthy need to examine if this guy is worth the disruption to the locker room and sideline if they sign Verba.

                  Oregonpackfan

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Could make an interesting decision for GB, if Verba is willing to receive a paycheck for being a backup, and starting guards are found among the others.

                    A backup LT is an important position. So what do you do?

                    Klemm seems like an adequate backup at LT, but is marginally effective as a backup at guard. Reportedly, Klemm is a great guy.

                    Verba was a starting LT for years, and not a bad one at that. He started one year at guard and did well there too. Reportedly he is a jerk.

                    Do you keep Verba and let Klemm go?

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      That is my exact issue. Coston might be good and it might be sooner than later but I don't want to find out right now. He was extremely raw as a rookie and got drafted primarily on his athletic ability. Even if he got his technique to a point that was much better than it originally was, it's still probably not much better than a rookie who came in polished like Colledge.

                      I think we're fine, lining Colledge up next to Clifton. They are both very smart players and will probably learn to play together quickly. I do have a problem sticking Coston, a project, in at RG to get beat up and man handled by the DT's in our league. Let's give Coston one more year to learn the system and become reliable. We have a ton of young lineman learning and growing. One stopgap vet in this case is well worht it if it prevents 2 or 3 QB pressures per game and opens up the run lanes.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I don't know that Verba woudl be "just a back up". He has the experience and the desired build to play gaurd in this scheme. I can't imagine a savvy vet just exiting his prime cannot beat out a second year project.

                        I think you keep Verba and cut Klemm. That is my initial guess.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Someone please refresh my memory about Verba. I remember him as a guy who was disliked by other teams because of things he did, but was he a disruptive force in his own locker room? I know he left because he didn't want to play guard, but I thought that was a career decision. Offensive Left tackles make more money than Guards. Lots of guys would have done the same thing.
                          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by shamrockfan
                            Could make an interesting decision for GB, if Verba is willing to receive a paycheck for being a backup, and starting guards are found among the others.

                            A backup LT is an important position. So what do you do?

                            Klemm seems like an adequate backup at LT, but is marginally effective as a backup at guard. Reportedly, Klemm is a great guy.

                            Verba was a starting LT for years, and not a bad one at that. He started one year at guard and did well there too. Reportedly he is a jerk.

                            Do you keep Verba and let Klemm go?

                            Hmmmm Sham, I think TT and M3 would have Verba in mind for a starting guard. Why let more precious time pass, plus he hasn't lost a whole lot of playing time since he left GB.
                            Yep, I think Klemm would be out.
                            Is it really a halo or
                            just a swelled head ?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              I agree they may want Verba as a starter, my hypothetical was what to do if he does not become the starter but is willing to stay as a backup. Then what do you do?

                              Maybe the answer is if he doesn't win a starting guard spot you release him. But even as a backup he may have more value and be more versatile than Klemm. That is what could cause a dilemma.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X