Article Winners and Losers Week 5

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I don't blame MM for that. Its a whole list of losers and should be on it because he was out coached in the second half. There is a big difference between "chucking the rock down the field" and going three and out on run, run, pass...run, run, pass... run, run, run. If those three possessions didn't give you flashbacks of 2005 then my guess is you've probobly either blocked 2005 from your memory or didn't watch a game.

They really don't because the Bears are who I thought they were. They're a very good on defense and special teams. By the end of the game, they had momentum and were out playing us. I don't think it would have mattered if we went pass, pass, pass is the point I am making.

Driver wasn't getting open; Jennings was in and out; Martin isn't going to win a game for you.

[3irty1]

I don't blame MM for that. Its a whole list of losers and should be on it because he was out coached in the second half. There is a big difference between "chucking the rock down the field" and going three and out on run, run, pass...run, run, pass... run, run, run. If those three possessions didn't give you flashbacks of 2005 then my guess is you've probobly either blocked 2005 from your memory or didn't watch a game.

They really don't because the Bears are who I thought they were. They're a very good on defense and special teams. By the end of the game, they had momentum and were out playing us. I don't think it would have mattered if we went pass, pass, pass is the point I am making.

Driver wasn't getting open; Jennings was in and out; Martin isn't going to win a game for you.

That very well could be but we'll never know now. Passing is what we do best and its awfully hard to defend play calling that didn't work. I'm not suggesting pass pass pass but what he called didn't work and it didn't work three times in a row in a close game.

[Deputy Nutz]

Driver only caught 4 passes.

[The Leaper]

The Packers had several chances to come back from Jones' fumbles which were in the first quarter.

Come back?

The Packers never trailed in the entire first half...so they never had to come back from Jones' fumbles.

Our issue was a lack of WRs. Jones was benched, Jennings is china doll, and Driver can't dominate by himself. That more or less gave us no options in the passing game, and allowed Chicago to handle our running game with ease in the 2nd half.

We need KRob.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers had several chances to come back from Jones' fumbles which were in the first quarter.

Come back?

The Packers never trailed in the entire first half...so they never had to come back from Jones' fumbles.

Our issue was a lack of WRs. Jones was benched, Jennings is china doll, and Driver can't dominate by himself. That more or less gave us no options in the passing game, and allowed Chicago to handle our running game with ease in the 2nd half.

We need KRob.

I meant come back mentally and emotionally from the fumbles, it wasn't like he fumbled on the last series.

We have a young wide out corps, its going to hit rough patches along the way. I am not one to jump on the play calling but I really didn't like some of the play action or play fakes, especially once the Bears had figured them out from the first half.

[Merlin]

This loss is solely on two people in order:

1) Mike McCarthy. There wasn't one slant route the entire second half until two minutes left in the game. Not even to Driver. It was fake draw screen, draw, and running plays that took too long to develop. That isn't on the WR's, that's on the person calling the plays. The whole middle of the field was wide open the entire second half and we didn't use it. That is inexcusable. McCarthy got scared and went too conservative against a very poor Bears defense. Our defense has played two very poor offensive teams in the past two weeks and given up too many points. So much for our over-rated top 5 defense, oh wait, we aren't top 5 are we. Sure Favre's int can be blamed on him but there was a receiver there and he couldn't see Urlacher. Poor decision maybe, poor play calling definitely. Why we ran a roll out instead of a quick slant is only McCarthy's guess.

2) Ted Thompson. So much for our team being stocked with young players. Jones didn't learn his first time to secure the ball. Spitz, what a joke at Center. Coston, all I can say is wow. Poppinga, OMFG, ouch. Yes Ted, you really do go through growing pains starting rookies and second year players. Yes Ted, you do need viable veterans even if they are backups to help fill holes when in game injuries occur. The Well's injury proved that we are only one player away from being in the NFL's cellar. Spitz cost us 47 seconds while Favre was trying to get him to snap the friggin ball. Yes Ted, we all know you like to build through the draft. Yes Ted, we know you don't like to pick up anyone worthy in free agency. Yes Ted, we know you have 10 Mil in cap space just sitting there. If you get credit for a 4-0 start you sure as hell get credit for that embarrassment of a 2nd half against the woeful Bears. There is no way in hell a team with depth loses this game. We have zero depth, absolutely none accept in the defensive line. By the way, how is that #1 draft pick doing?

[oregonpackfan]

One factor not mentioned in the Packers' loss was the penalties.

The Packers had far too many penalties, particularly in the second half. The fumbles, conservative play-calll, etc. are valid factors in the Packers' loss. But the large number of critical penalties is a sign of a young team in need of maturity. Without proper execution, the team will have penalties, missed blocks, blown assignments, etc.

Those cumulative factors led to the Packers' defeat, IMO.

[esoxx]

Rouse had two holding penalties on special teams and it only made things worse playing on such a long field compared to where the Bears were usually starting from.
The youth showed up on the bad side Sunday night.
Call it growing pains.

[Merlin]

Last time I checked, Woodson isn't a young player and he coughed the ball up. Ineptness is contagious and despite the penalties & turnovers, the Packers should have won this game. Play calling and lack of depth is the reason we lost. The only turnover that cost us was Favre's, not a young player. I think the exchange between Favre and McCarthy was a little more then a "tiff". The play calling sure showed it in the 2nd half.

[Deputy Nutz]

Last time I checked, Woodson isn't a young player and he coughed the ball up. Ineptness is contagious and despite the penalties & turnovers, the Packers should have won this game. Play calling and lack of depth is the reason we lost. The only turnover that cost us was Favre's, not a young player. I think the exchange between Favre and McCarthy was a little more then a "tiff". The play calling sure showed it in the 2nd half.

You mention Woodson's turnover, that led to 3 points, that hurt, Jones' fumbles kept the Packers from scoring, News Flash!!!! Turnovers hurt your team regardless of the time or field position.

[Merlin]

Although I agree we could have scored points on those drives, we still should have won the game regardless of those turnovers. The play calling and lack of veteran depth at center cost us more in the second half then those two turnovers, Favre's int and Woodsons fumble. And as I said, ineptness is contagious. When shit starts going south it affects everyone. When our defense was called upon to step it up in a tie game they gave up an easy TD because of blown coverage. Good defenses don't do that, especially when facing a shitty offense.

[Zool]

So let me wager a guess and say that you think that Dallas has a good offense. Want to check their turnovers from this week? Your schtick is getting old very fast.

[The Shadow]

This loss is solely on two people in order:

1) Mike McCarthy. There wasn't one slant route the entire second half until two minutes left in the game. Not even to Driver. It was fake draw screen, draw, and running plays that took too long to develop. That isn't on the WR's, that's on the person calling the plays. The whole middle of the field was wide open the entire second half and we didn't use it. That is inexcusable. McCarthy got scared and went too conservative against a very poor Bears defense. Our defense has played two very poor offensive teams in the past two weeks and given up too many points. So much for our over-rated top 5 defense, oh wait, we aren't top 5 are we. Sure Favre's int can be blamed on him but there was a receiver there and he couldn't see Urlacher. Poor decision maybe, poor play calling definitely. Why we ran a roll out instead of a quick slant is only McCarthy's guess.

2) Ted Thompson. So much for our team being stocked with young players. Jones didn't learn his first time to secure the ball. Spitz, what a joke at Center. Coston, all I can say is wow. Poppinga, OMFG, ouch. Yes Ted, you really do go through growing pains starting rookies and second year players. Yes Ted, you do need viable veterans even if they are backups to help fill holes when in game injuries occur. The Well's injury proved that we are only one player away from being in the NFL's cellar. Spitz cost us 47 seconds while Favre was trying to get him to snap the friggin ball. Yes Ted, we all know you like to build through the draft. Yes Ted, we know you don't like to pick up anyone worthy in free agency. Yes Ted, we know you have 10 Mil in cap space just sitting there. If you get credit for a 4-0 start you sure as hell get credit for that embarrassment of a 2nd half against the woeful Bears. There is no way in hell a team with depth loses this game. We have zero depth, absolutely none accept in the defensive line. By the way, how is that #1 draft pick doing?

Well, that settles the over/under debate : one loss and your tired old crap whines on again like a broken record.
Really, my friend - it was old long, long ago.

[ahaha]

And as I said, ineptness is contagious. When shit starts going south it affects everyone.

We saw lots of ineptness from the Bears, in the first half. If this idea is true, why didn't we win by 100.

When our defense was called upon to step it up in a tie game they gave up an easy TD because of blown coverage. Good defenses don't do that, especially when facing a shitty offense.

Sure they do. Just watch more football games. Even great defenses get burned from time to time.
When the TE caught that pass I was hoping he'd score the TD. Better to get beat deep than allow a shorter first down completion. They run down the clock and kick a chip shot field goal. At least we had a chance with our offense.

[woodbuck27]

Again your analysis is bang on Deputy Nutz.

Superb work Packer fan.

GO Packers !