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  • #16
    I just don't want to see any more free releases on TEs. I want to see a little Wayne Simmons action on these TEs that think they can run around like wide receivers from the end of the line. Pop a couple of them and put them on their rear ends.
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    • #17
      Our D is getting killed by any TE, so far, this season.

      I expect Hawk to play better; sooner rather than later. People need to step up 'cos from now every game becomes more playoff like. Even when Packers travel to St. Louis, they'll be fighting for pride, maybe as a winless team.
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      • #18
        I'll take a solid OLB any day. The big plays will come.
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        • #19
          On the game winning touchdown Jenkins just let Clark get a free release. He was probably like, "Great he didn't even try to block me!"

          That was crap on a 3rd and 2 situation, normally D-ends don't bother getting a jam. but on a short yardage play it is expected because everyone else is also thinking run and that jam gives a guy a couple of steps to recover.

          Hawk really hasn't been playing well until the game against the Bears. I like the person Poppinga is, but his inability to cover a tight end really effects what others do in this scheme. Hawk is better getting into a zone jumping on running backs or wide outs coming over the middle, but he is taken out of his game having to run with a tight end. He is playmaker that needs to be around the line of scrimmage.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mmmdk
            Our D is getting killed by any TE, so far, this season.
            Outside of the San Diego game on a few plays, it hasn't been Hawk who has been the one getting killed by TEs. In fact, for as much as he's been in coverage, he hasn't given up a lot of completions. We've faced some darn good TEs. Smith, Shockey, Gates are good. The combination of Clark and Olsen is underrated. I'll be interested to see how things change when Green Bay faces teams that don't have good receiving TEs. Washington is another team with a good receiving TE.
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            • #21
              Most teams have good tight ends.

              I guess I hold Collins responsible the most, he is not big for a safety, in fact he looks like a corner back, but size isn't important, he isn't physical enough, smart enough, and his technique isn't good enough.

              I wish Rouse was a better option right now but he isn't, he has issues as well.

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              • #22
                Well, we've played some of the best TEs in the league. After Washington, it gets easier. We still play Cooley, Gonzalez, Witten and the Bears again, but otherwise not a lot of TEs that scare you catching the ball.
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                • #23
                  Hawk has been doing a good job, just like Barnett has done for us. Hawk will solve the over-pursuit issues and be just fine. When he does get to the point of attack, he hangs on and that's what matters. By the way, outside of Urlacher's int and his gimme sack, did anyone else notice that he was blown up nearly every play?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                    Hawk really hasn't been playing well until the game against the Bears. I like the person Poppinga is, but his inability to cover a tight end really effects what others do in this scheme. Hawk is better getting into a zone jumping on running backs or wide outs coming over the middle, but he is taken out of his game having to run with a tight end. He is playmaker that needs to be around the line of scrimmage.
                    Maybe developing a sub package that isn't quite base but not quite nickle would help. Maybe in 2nd and 10 or 3rd and 7 type situations we could sub Rouse for Poppinga, playing Rouse as a Rover type SS/LB. That would allow Hawk to be more at home on the weakside and also help our TE coverage (assuming Rouse is good at it)
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