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Is a good team, but I'm getting positive vibes about this game.Originally posted by PartialDon't say that shit. Washington is actually pretty damn good. I expect a tough, tough game.Originally posted by BallHawkI can't see us losing this game in any way. We'll either blow them out or win close.
That's all Packnut should need to hear to bet his life-savings on this game.
"I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Didn't you have those same "positive vibes" last week ?Originally posted by BallHawk
Is a good team, but I'm getting positive vibes about this game.
That's all Packnut should need to hear to bet his life-savings on this game.
NFCN Champs 2005 & 2006, NFC Champs 2006
"Some people go though life wondering if they have made a difference, ... Marines do not have that problem." - Ronald Regan
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If you cut me, I bleed Da BEARS Blue & Orange ! I have the BEARS head tattooed on my left chest, over my heart. My dog's name is BEAR, All my kids and all my grandkids are BEARS fans ! My grandfauther was a BEARS fan, my Dad is a BEARS fan, I am a BEARS fan, my son is a BEARS fan, my Grandson is a BEARS fan. What do you think we think of the green & gold?Originally posted by GrnBay007That's what they all say in the beginning. Suddenly your thoughts turn to Green and Gold.....and you are a part of the Winning family.Originally posted by BEARMANYou would LOOSE !Originally posted by GrnBay007I bet he's a closet Packer fan.Originally posted by JoemailmanYou mellowing out, Bearman?
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Go BEARS Go !
NFCN Champs 2005 & 2006, NFC Champs 2006
"Some people go though life wondering if they have made a difference, ... Marines do not have that problem." - Ronald Regan
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Few would have predicted in training camp that Washington and Green Bay would have a combined 7-2 record for this early showdown between teams chasing Dallas in the NFC. The surprising matchup also presents an interesting quarterback story because both starters are from rural Mississippi.
The Redskins swapped three draft choices with Denver in order to select Auburn's Jason Campbell with the 25th choice in 2005. The player selected immediately before Campbell was Aaron Rodgers, now in his third season as Favre's backup.
Until the second half against the Bears, Favre has been playing excellent football. But after he gambled on a silly throw that was intercepted by Brian Urlacher — a turnover the Bears immediately cashed into seven points — it appeared Packers coach Mike McCarthy put the wraps on Favre, whose passing offense still ranks No. 1 in the NFL.
On the next series, McCarthy called three straight runs and punted.
On the next series, McCarthy called his fourth consecutive run before two dink throws to tight end Bubba Frank gained a combined 5 yards, forcing another punt.
On the third Packer series after the Urlacher interception, McCarthy still declined to allow Favre to throw longer than 3 yards. Yes, another punt.
Finally on the fourth series, on third down, after another failed run and another dink pass attempt, Favre completed an 11-yard pass.
Those possessions cost Green Bay the game, one that would have put the Bears firmly in the cellar, maybe to disappear off the radar screen. Instead, the Bears won in Lambeau and now have new life.
The Packers don't have a running game, which makes those run calls all the more intriguing. It's almost like McCarthy was afraid to allow Favre to compete and try to win the game. You could also tell in the final minutes of the game that Favre was upset that his head coach had called a timeout when he was preparing to spike the ball and save the valuable timeout.
Remember, Raiders owner Al Davis wanted to trade Randy Moss to the Packers, but Green Bay passed on the former Viking. After last week's second half, I wonder if McCarthy and GM Ted Thompson didn't want Moss, knowing that Favre would be taking chances down the field if he had No. 81. With Moss, Favre could stretch the field and make the passing game even better like Tom Brady is doing in New England. But Favre would also be taking more chances.
There is no doubt that Rodgers, for the first time this summer, looked like he's ready to play NFL quarterback. He could definitely run this dink-and-dunk passing game offense, one he operated to perfection at Cal under Jeff Tedford.
The bottom line is that Favre is something special, even at his age. But if McCarthy doesn't allow him to be himself, heck, he might as well find out if Rodgers can play. Yes, the team is bigger than any quarterback. But in Green Bay, Favre is the team. So let him play and take the wraps off.
GAME: Washington at Green Bay
TIME: 1 ET
WHAT TO WATCH FOR: Washington QB Jason Campbell is coming off his finest NFL performance, where he completed 23 of 29 passes for 248 yards and two TDs against the Lions last Sunday. He did it without WR Santana Moss, who will play Sunday. However, Antwaan Randle El (hamstring) will be a game-time decision. The Packers' offensive line will be minus center Scott Wells, but Brett Favre's pass protection could be leaky as Tony Moll could be starting for RG Junius Colston. Jason Spitz, the regular guard, is now at center. Although Favre is facing a Washington secondary featuring four former first-round draft picks, the Redskins could be minus LB Marcus Washington and DE Philip Daniels. After missing two games, Packers RB Brandon Jackson returns, but the team probably will stick with a three-man rotation even though rookie DeShawn Wynn got most of the action last Sunday.
CZAR'S SCOOP: This is an unusual story. Jason Campbell's father, Larry, has taught Favre's daughter, Brittany, in high school in Hattiesburg, Miss. Larry Campbell serves as a substitute teacher at the local high school. "He just said how nice she is and that she came up and introduced herself," Jason said. "He just said she's a really nice girl." How does the state of Mississippi develop quarterbacks like Archie Manning, Favre, Campbell, Steve McNair? Said Campbell: "You have nothing else to do but sit outside and throw a football at trees. That's how you work on your accuracy, knocking loose bark off of trees." The Packers are hoping that WR Koren Robinson will have his suspension lifted and give Favre another deep threat.
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What's the correlation? The Badgers lost yesterday so are you saying the Packers will lose today?Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by BallHawkI can't see us losing this game in any way. We'll either blow them out or win close.
The Badger Packer results have been identical every week
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I believe that is exactly what he is saying.Originally posted by LL2What's the correlation? The Badgers lost yesterday so are you saying the Packers will lose today?Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by BallHawkI can't see us losing this game in any way. We'll either blow them out or win close.
The Badger Packer results have been identical every week
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Packers look to rebound against defensive-minded Redskins
Associated Press
At this point, teams must know what's coming from Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers.
Going into Sunday's game against the Washington Redskins at Lambeau Field, the Packers (4-1) lead the league with an average of 294.6 yards passing per game. They're also the league's second-worst rushing team, and Favre's downfield accuracy isn't quite what it used to be.
The 4-1 Green Bay Packers have a great challenge on their hands in the Washington Redskins' defense. More ... It doesn't take a week in the video vault to figure out that the Packers plan to dissect defenses with quick, short passes that lead to long runs after the catch - "dinking and dunking," as Favre calls it.
So why, with the exception of the Chicago Bears' performance in their second-half comeback Sunday night, has nobody been able to stop it in recent weeks?
Tight end Bubba Franks said the Packers don't need the element of surprise to move the ball.
"They know what's coming," Franks said. "But can you run your offense better than they can run their defense? Even though they do know it's coming, we just have to go out and execute. It's hard to stop when everybody's clicking."
But despite a hot start against an early schedule that featured four playoff teams from last season, Packers coach Mike McCarthy said the Redskins (3-1) will be "the best team that we've played to date."
Favre agrees.
"I think their defense in general is playing by far the best football we've seen up to this point," Favre said. "It's not a knock against the teams we've played. But they really haven't had injuries, they have a lot of veterans, they have high picks and everything that they did from an organization standpoint, defensively speaking, is kind of coming into place."
The Redskins faced another pass-happy NFC North team last week and stopped it cold.
Washington held the Detroit Lions and mad-scientist offensive coordinator Mike Martz to a measly field goal in a 34-3 romp last Sunday. The Lions gained only 144 yards, the fewest allowed by the Redskins since 1992.
And the Redskins stopped the Lions without using a bunch of blitzes, a curveball from aggressive assistant coach Gregg Williams.
"Now that's not to say he won't roll the dice against us," Favre said. "But against a very high-powered offense in Detroit, they played as vanilla as you can play and never gave up anything. And when you can do that and get pressure with the front four, it sure makes it a whole lot easier to call a game. He's presented problems to us in the past with his exotic blitzes and things of that nature; that would pose a threat to us again. But why do it if you don't have to?"
Favre, who will break a tie with George Blanda and become the league's all-time interception king with his next pick, has earned rave reviews for being more careful this year.
He has thrown only four interceptions, and only one true head-scratcher: a lob to Brian Urlacher that helped the Bears mount a second-half comeback on Sunday. But Redskins safety Carlos Rogers has seen more balls that were there for the taking.
"He's still throwing them out there," Rogers said. "He's still letting his guys try to make a play, and the ball's been loose. The guys haven't put their hands on them. We've got to show him different looks, but when the opportunity comes, take advantage of it."
The Redskins could be without a pair of key players on Sunday, linebacker Marcus Washington (hamstring) and defensive end Phillip Daniels (shoulder).
Although the Packers' dormant running game did show some signs of improvement last Sunday, there's no reason to expect a quantum leap this week, particularly with center Scott Wells sidelined because of a broken bone near his eye.
But the Packers always can add wrinkles to their passing game.
"We have a lot more offense we haven't showed yet," Franks said. "I don't think we've had to show it up to this point. We still have a lot more offense out there, and it's exciting, because you kind of run the same plays over and over and they're working right now. When they stop working, we can open up the rest of our offense."
The Packers have a pretty stout defense of their own, a challenge to third-year Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell.
"Our defensive coaches were the first ones that told us, 'Hey, when you get to the Packers, you're going to have a problem,"' Redskins coach Joe Gibbs said.
Campbell, a Mississippi kid who grew up admiring Favre, is coming into his own as a starter and is coming off perhaps the best game yet of his career. After starting seven times last season, Campbell said the game is slowing down "tremendously" as he gains experience.
"I'm excited about the progress," Campbell said. "At the same time, every time, you can't get too high on yourself, you can't get too low on yourself or you make mistakes."
Campbell should get wide receiver Santana Moss back after he missed the Detroit game with a groin injury, but Antwaan Randle El (hamstring) could miss a game for the first time in his NFL career.
Gibbs praised Campbell's decision-making, saying the kid knows when to try to make a big play and when to throw it away.
"I felt like that was the best thing he did, and I felt like that was probably his best game since he's started for us," Gibbs said. "He's young at quarterback, we know that, but I felt like he made some real good decisions. And many times your quarterback, the best decision he makes is when it's not there, when he chooses to do the smart thing."
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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Yeah, I'm set!!Originally posted by RastakThanks Tar. Do you get streaming video for the Packers game?
I am subscribed to http://sports.yahoo.com/nflgamepass. Costs me 199 for the regular season.
It doesn't work in the USA. I can see one game per week, so I always just choose the Packers' games...
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Originally posted by Tarlam!Yeah, I'm set!!Originally posted by RastakThanks Tar. Do you get streaming video for the Packers game?
I am subscribed to http://sports.yahoo.com/nflgamepass. Costs me 199 for the regular season.
It doesn't work in the USA. I can see one game per week, so I always just choose the Packers' games...
Very cool. I've streamed some live Cricket and some Tennis before and it works pretty well.
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