HOW GB WINS- Pre Season Expectation vs. What has Occured

[Patler]

I beg to differ on the D's play. We have been very average in terms of D. IMO, brett and the WR corp are the main reasons we have been successful to this point with kudos also going to the Oline for their pass blocking and special teams. The D has been a disappointment imo at this point.

Packers are #12 in scoring defense...(yards never tells the whole story).

I am a bit disappointed in the defense, too. It's been "OK" and certainly hasn't hurt them, but hasn't taken control the way I hoped it might. Not a lot of big plays. Not many turnovers. Decent pressure, but sort of middle of the road in sacks. Too many penalties.

Last week was a time for the defense to wrap up an offense. Chicago is not a good offensive team. Regardless of field position, turnovers, etc. a commanding defense would have shut them down. Instead, the defense showed its weaknesses.

[b bulldog]

The eagles O is ranked 14th, Giants 16th, chargers 18th, vikings 20th, bears 30th. We've basicly played offenes that are average to below average. The skins O is ranked 12th.

[b bulldog]

The bears banged up D is much better than ours. Put that D with our O and you have a SB team. This is where points allowed gets murky. When your O sucks and can't ever get a drive with any regularity, it will grind your D down and eventually your D stats get hurt. Our O is probably really helped our D in that they can sustain drives and our O is ranked 6th in the league.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The defense has played well in 4 of 6 games now. They've played some good offenses. Ironically, I think they've played well against the good offenses they've faced and struggled more against the ordinary offense. Then again, the way Peterson ran and Griese threw today may be they aren't quite as anemic as I thought. Peterson, for sure, is ridiculously good.

[b bulldog]

Good point. They also seem to play much better in the second half.

[Deputy Nutz]

This team is grinding wins out and who really thought at this point the Packers would have five wins? At minimum the Packers go 5-5 over their next ten games then get a home playoff game. I would take that going into the season.

[4and12to12and4]

I expected us to be at least two games behind the Bears or Lions by now. I still can't believe we are 5-1, it's just not real. WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME. NONE. AT ALL. It's awesome.

[LL2]

I expected us to be at least two games behind the Bears or Lions by now. I still can't believe we are 5-1, it's just not real. WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME. NONE. AT ALL. It's awesome.

I couldn't agree more. Like Brett said in his post game news conference if they can fix some of the areas they have been lacking or need improvement in they could be a really good team. He said they could also just as easily be a 3-3 team at this point, but they have been grinding it out and finding ways to win.

They need to cut back on turnovers, create turnovers and get a running game going. Solve this and will be hard to beat.

[Packers4Ever]

Will Brett still be calling plays or has

that been scrapped? I felt he would be

best choice, given his 16 years of playing

and "seeing everything." Or is he then

carrying too much weight?

MM calls the plays; but Brett seems to have full freedom to audbile in and out of every play called in.

I knew Brett had some sort of hand in play calling - and I think
audibling in and out would be necessary for that particular play, but I really wondered about the rest of it, not too likely.

Thanks both of you guys, B and RAS