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  • #76
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
    That's what everyone was saying about Moss.
    Who? Not me. Moss doesn't have the speed he once had (did you see him in '98?), but he was so ridiculously fast that losing a little bit of speed didn't cost him much. I think most that argued against Moss thought 1) he can be an asshat that would ruin the chemistry of the team, 2) he was injury prone in his old age, 3) he had to go to the right situation to succeed. Who knows if Green Bay would have been the right situation. Maybe. Maybe not.
    Well, I heard plenty of people say he had lost his speed and was too old. Maybe not you, but plenty of others thought he was washed up. So, who knows, maybe Koren's got some juice left. Even if he could better our return game. I was really high on Tramone Williams after preseason, I thought he was going to break a few and average over 25 a return, boy has he disappointed me.
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    • #77
      Williams has done fine. The blocking hasn't been there. I didn't like Williams in the preseason. He let too many punts hit the ground and fumbled another, but I like what I've seen in the regular season. I think he and Robinson could make a good combination.

      Robinson never had anywhere close to the speed that Moss had coming out.

      With precious little time now to rehabilitate his draft status, North Carolina State star Koren Robinson, rated by some franchises as the top wide receiver prospect available in the 2001 draft, might have run himself out of top 10 status with a Thursday campus workout termed "brutal" by one scout in attendance.

      Running on an indoor, rubberized track conducive to posting an excellent time, Robinson was clocked by three scouts to whom SportsLine.com spoke at between 4.59-4.63 seconds in the 40-yard dash. The 40 time was critical for Robinson, because he did not run at the combine in February and pulled up after 30 yards with a strained hamstring in an earlier campus audition.
      This isn't to say he's slow. He's shown he has decent speed, but I think he's more like an Anquan Boldin--a guy that plays faster than he times.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #78
        http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/10/17/1/
        Robinson's current reinstatement is his last chance, and another misstep will result in lifetime banishment from the league.
        Thats what I meant by last chance. He is does it this time or his is finished.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by MadtownPacker
          http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/10/17/1/
          Robinson's current reinstatement is his last chance, and another misstep will result in lifetime banishment from the league.
          Thats what I meant by last chance. He is does it this time or his is finished.
          I really wish the best for him. Problems with alcohol can be really tough to beat.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
            ...
            maybe Koren's got some juice left.
            ...
            At 27, he really shouldn't have lost a step! The only reason I can think that he may have is if he drank heavily enough to wear his body down.
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            • #81
              Good nrws !

              Now MM can relieve C.Woodson of punt return duties, for which he is not a threat to opposing teams and try Koren Robinson.

              It will not be many weeks before we see him on the field in a game.

              We have a possible legit NO. 2 or 3 WR (in KR). . .

              but who falls to the wayside is the question.

              I hope Ruvell Martin survives K.Robinson. RM generally impresses me.

              I believe he (R. Martin) can serve a bigger role.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Guiness
                Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
                ...
                maybe Koren's got some juice left.
                ...
                At 27, he really shouldn't have lost a step! The only reason I can think that he may have is if he drank heavily enough to wear his body down.
                One of those articles said he was 203. This year off to essentially work out and heal his body could really help him. 27 is a prime time for any athlete. He could really help us like crazy.

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                • #83
                  Robinson is NOT a deep threat.

                  However, he has the speed to be a factor up the sidelines to take advantage of defenses that are keying on the slants. He also has size in that regard that Jennings doesn't have. He's probably more comparable to Jones...Jones has more strength and better hands, but Koren has greater experience and a little more speed.

                  His hands are a question mark, but you also have to recognize that the circumstances he has been through are likely to change him in some manner. This guy knows it is his last shot in the NFL...I think his concentration level overall is going to be higher than it was 3-4 years ago when he was more or less still a kid.

                  Robinson has more natural talent to be a WR than either Jennings or Jones. Whether he can put it together, I don't know.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by woodbuck27
                    We have a possible legit NO. 2 or 3 WR (in KR). . .
                    Possible? I think he is a bona fide #2 receiver, although it will take him 4-6 weeks to get back into the flow of things.

                    Favre isn't just giddy because his Wranglers were a little tighter in the seat this morning.
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                    • #85
                      KoRo is a prototypical WCO receiver: has good size, some speed, good YAC ability. He's not a real burner, speed-wise, but he plays fast like GJ. Some of the coaches might argue he's the most naturally talented WR on the roster. Whether he has his head right is the question. He says all the right things in the JSO article. I hope it's true.
                      Even if his career is over, I hope he's turned his life around.

                      IIRC, he was a KR for MIN. PR are different...you have to deal with 11 guys circling you like sharks waiting to hit the snot out of you the second the ball touches your fingers. KR get a head start w/ more breathing room. Both jobs require the player has a certain talent for it, but they are slightly different talents.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by The Leaper

                        Robinson has more natural talent to be a WR than either Jennings or Jones. Whether he can put it together, I don't know.
                        Not true, IMO. Jennings is a good notch or two faster and is more natural at the position.

                        Robinson is pretty much another James Jones. Jones is a mid 4.6 guy. Robinson is a low 4.6 guy, with age probably about even with Jones.

                        Jennings is a legit 4.4 guy with top notch ball skills.

                        I'd say Jones and Robinson are about even with Jennings grading out a good notch higher (depending on health)

                        Regardless, we have Driver, a good #2 in Jennings and two other servicable #2's in Robinson and Jones. I'd say our 4 WR set should be pretty effective.
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                        • #87
                          Why do people put Jennings speed in the same class as Jones and Robinson? Jennings is a legit 4.4 and the other two are 4.6 guys. That is a huge difference. One is on the fast end of the WR spectrum adn the other two are on the slow end.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            Originally posted by BlueBrewer
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            Originally posted by BlueBrewer
                            Nice, Drunk Driver is back to team with Don Driver making the Green Bay Receiving threat more dangerous....
                            Not very christian of you, Blue.

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                            Dumb.
                            Did you read the rest of my post you idiot?
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              Not true, IMO. Jennings is a good notch or two faster and is more natural at the position.
                              One notch faster, I'll give you. Certainly not two notches. Robinson also seems to me to be a notch faster than Jones, and probably is naturally more elusive. The guy was a first round pick...he has some damn good physical talent.

                              Jennings may be more natural, but he is very small and prone to injury. He seems to struggle running sideline routes because of his size. He is more comfortable running slants and crossing patterns that allow him to work in space. One-on-one battles for the ball are not his forte, and that is where Robinson's talent comes in handy.

                              I do agree Robinson is more like Jones...and his experience will be a huge boost in that regard. Jones is a tremendous young talent, but needs at least a year to gain experience before you can expect to get consistent production from him. Robinson will be more dependable...and a good guy for Jones to learn from.

                              The biggest problem with Jennings is that he is too much like Driver. We need the Jones/Robinson guys out there too. Having two small receivers out there isn't a good idea when you are running a WCO predicated on tossing the ball into tight places where receivers are going to get hit.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                                Why do people put Jennings speed in the same class as Jones and Robinson? Jennings is a legit 4.4 and the other two are 4.6 guys. That is a huge difference. One is on the fast end of the WR spectrum adn the other two are on the slow end.
                                WTF are you talking about JH?

                                Robinson was a legit 4.4 guy coming out of college. You sure as hell don't get taken as the NUMBER NINE OVERALL PICK IN THE DRAFT!!!!!! as a 4.6 receiver. Granted, he's probably not that fast anymore...but he certainly is faster than Jones.

                                Get your head out of your ass. You are discrediting the talent of Robinson...and I'm not sure why.
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