Agree but when the DT you draft plays with little heart and shows up out of shape and has a hard time completing the Dline drills?? He needs to win me over. I was OK with TT's decision but I'm very iffy on Harrell's desire.
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The thing changes everything is that Cleveland's draft position has moved so much. It wouldn't have been a reach to think a top 10, or even top 5 pick would've been had for Cleveland's first rounder. It was pure speculation.
So, at this point, it looks like TT made the right move. Trading this year's 16th pick for next year's 15-20th pick is a bad trade. Had it been #8 or something, it would've been good.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Originally posted by GuinessThe thing changes everything is that Cleveland's draft position has moved so much. It wouldn't have been a reach to think a top 10, or even top 5 pick would've been had for Cleveland's first rounder. It was pure speculation.
So, at this point, it looks like TT made the right move. Trading this year's 16th pick for next year's 15-20th pick is a bad trade. Had it been #8 or something, it would've been good.
While I agree with you, as I am glad that he did not make the trade, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that in addition to the 2008 1st rounder, they also would have received the Browns 2007 2nd rounder which was the 36th pick in the last draft. That pick netted Kevin Kolb (QB) for the Philadelphia Eagles who got the pick from Dallas.
Who knows who Ted would have taken, but there was more to the trade than just Cleveland's 2008 1st rounder.
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That was the deal Dallas got, but the word out of several of the teams who were drafting ahead of Dallas (including Green Bay) was that the deal the Browns were offering didn't contain any additional picks, simply a swap of second and third round picks.Originally posted by retailguyWhile I agree with you, as I am glad that he did not make the trade, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that in addition to the 2008 1st rounder, they also would have received the Browns 2007 2nd rounder which was the 36th pick in the last draft. That pick netted Kevin Kolb (QB) for the Philadelphia Eagles who got the pick from Dallas.
I don't know if that's true, but suffice to say that Dallas had much more leverage in getting a deal out of Cleveland than Green Bay did. Green Bay, Denver, Cincinnati, Tennessee, the Giants, and Jacksonville were very unlikely to draft a QB. Kansas City came out and said "If Quinn is there, we will take him." So if Cleveland wanted Quinn, they needed to trade up ahead of KC. The last team picking before KC? Dallas. I don't know what really happens on the red phones on draft day, but Cleveland really had no incentive to "up their offer" to Green Bay considering that there were six more teams picking before KC they can try to work with, and those picks will come cheaper than #16.
So could Thompson have maybe talked Cleveland into the deal that Dallas got? Maybe, who can say? Did Dallas have a significantly easier time getting a good deal out of Cleveland than we could? Absolutely.
Regardless, I hope Cleveland wins 11 games this year, and right now I'm glad that Thompson didn't pull the trigger on that trade. I'm still cautiously optimistic but not sold on Harrell, but I'm glad I don't have to cheer against Cleveland every week.</delurk>
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I hated the fact that the 2007 draft was very top heavy there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the 16th ranked player and 32nd ranked player. I would have traded down if Cleveland would have worked a little bit.
Other than that I would have selected Reggie Nelson.
Olsen would have been a decent pick a little high for him but read above.
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