TARVARIS ERA ENDING QUICKLY?

[Lurker64]

the vikes are toast for this year so they might as well leave him in there and just try to get better. they'll end the season looking forward to getting a good draft pick. if they take him out they'll just get the race card played against them so leave him in to sink or swim.

I'm not sure that "leaving in your young impressionable QB to get terrorized" is the best solution to the struggling of a young QB. He might well grow into a heck of a QB in 4 years or so if he doesn't have his confidence completely destroyed in his second season, who knows?

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is stating the obvious

Yeah, we've been talking about this for a couple weeks.

I can't stand the Vikings, but with how great their defense, offensive line and Peterson are, I acctually feel bad for them having such a shit quarterback.

I agree that having a good QB would do them wonders, but they don't have a great OL. Watch them play some time. They OL is average. Hutchinson and Birk are solid. McKinnie is average, and the right-side of their OL is below average. Their defense isn't great. They are good. If you can throw the ball, you can move the ball on them. Peterson is indeed great.

[cpk1994]

This is stating the obvious

Yeah, we've been talking about this for a couple weeks.

I can't stand the Vikings, but with how great their defense, offensive line and Peterson are, I acctually feel bad for them having such a shit quarterback.

I agree that having a good QB would do them wonders, but they don't have a great OL. Watch them play some time. They OL is average. Hutchinson and Birk are solid. McKinnie is average, and the right-side of their OL is below average. Their defense isn't great. They are good. If you can throw the ball, you can move the ball on them. Peterson is indeed great.

TO add to it, they spent $100 million on that OL and they can't pass block.

[Carolina_Packer]

They can't pass block or Jackson holds the ball too long, or both?

[Tarlam!]

Ever been in a huddle?

Wrong thread...

[mngolf19]

If Jackson and the WR's were able to do anything, the blocking wouldn't be an issue. You get blitzed alot and have 8 guys in the box. That's alot to block. It is all right there for Jackson and the WR's to take advantage of, they just can't right now. I would start Jackson the rest of the season to see if he develops. You have to know before next offseason. If you think he can do it, then QB is not a hole to fill. If you don't, then you are drafting/FA a new QB. Along with bringing in more WR's next year. My expectations are limited for the season so just try to show something for next year. That's when the real pressure is on Childress, Jackson, etc.

[Zool]

Agreed. Its time to see if the kid is going to sink or swim.

He holds the ball way too long. And WTF was that weird jump yesterday? Looks to me like D's have no issue covering their pro-set at all with Williamson and Rice/Wade going out. They can commit to the run with 7 minimum and be comfortable about it..

Here's to hoping that Jackson never figures it out.

[mngolf19]

So who are the top QB's in the draft next year?

[Zool]

I bet you could place a call to Major Applewhite. He's probably not doing much.

[Lurker64]

So who are the top QB's in the draft next year?

André Woodson, Brian Brohm, and Matt Ryan in some order are probably first round picks next year. Someone might take a flyer on Colt Brennan with a late first, but he's a Hawaii QB and it's too early to tell how much of what he's done is based on the system and the competition. Also, we've all seen how the #2 QB drops in the first round over the past three years, I wouldn't expect the #4 QB to really stay up real high.

Ainge, Booty, Brennan, and Henne will probably all be there for a high second. The problem being that none of them are probably ready to step in right now, then again I'm not sure that anybody in this draft is ready to step in right now. Ryan maybe and Brohm if he gets drafted by Atlanta (which, in absence of information, seems probable).

[Carolina_Packer]

How about soon to be UFA's or RFA's ready to become starters? Anyone available?

[wpony]

in the old days they used to say it took 3 to 5 years to get a qb to be a truly top starting quality qb what ever happened to that true there are a few that can come righ in and start even brett took 2 to start but even his second yr he wasnt a top qb LOL alot better than travis but had a lot to learn

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brett made the Pro Bowl his first year in Green Bay in 1992 (64%, 3200 yards in 14 games, 18 TDs, 13 ints). He regressed his second year, and played horrible. His third year in Green Bay, he started playing at MVP level (62%, 3800 yards, 33 TDs, 14 ints). He won his first MVP in 1995 (63%, 4400 yards, 38 TDs, 13 ints). That was back when guys not named Dan Marino didn't put up numbers like that. Even that first year, you could see superstar potential in Favre. It was oozing out of him. He just made dumb mistakes.