Master Jim

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I can understand why Thompson passed don Bates. A lot of teams did. He is a great defensive mind but he lacks a certain something that every good coach has. What that is I don't know but you can definitely see it isn't there with him. I think Bates had more of a right to be upset with the Dolphins. They expect the guy to step in and take over the team and then throw him out after the season. If he was bitter against Green Bay, I wonder if it had anything to do with any "under the table" talks, as in "you will get your shot" if you come to Green Bay. Otherwise, it's childish for him to act as though he deserved the Green Bay job. He was only here a season.

I see it as well..or don't see it. There is a certain swish to his stride. I'm certain he isn't playing on our team.

[LL2]

If he was bitter against Green Bay, I wonder if it had anything to do with any "under the table" talks, as in "you will get your shot" if you come to Green Bay.

I'm sure there was some of this. Every pundit thought that Bates was the best signing they had that year. I'm sure TT told him he would be given a chance, an interview, but no promises.

[Patler]

Re: Master Jim

Bates then turned down McCarthy's offer to stay on as defensive coordinator, and the Packers ended up paying Bates a $1.1 million settlement to buy out the final two years of his contract.

And this is the other stinky part of this deal: How does a guy who says he doesn't want to continue doing his job get paid anyway!?

Maybe I don't understand the contract, but this appears to be a bullshit golden parachute, another double standard. A lower-level person would rightfully just been sent packing.

It is common procedure in the NFL. If the HC gets fired, all the assistant coaches who have unexpired contracts are paid even if the new HC offers them a job and they decline.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Master Jim

It is common procedure in the NFL. If the HC gets fired, all the assistant coaches who have unexpired contracts are paid even if the new HC offers them a job and they decline.

How often does this happen? I can't remember another case. It is common in the same sense that it's common procedure not to suspend coaches when they get caught in brazen cheating scandals.

I resent the stinky double standard. If you are high enough on the totem pole, you get a pass. If a player cheats with steroids, he's suspeded. If a player doesn't finish a contract, the team has him in court, arguing over how much of the signing bonus to recover.

[Patler]

Re: Master Jim

It is common procedure in the NFL. If the HC gets fired, all the assistant coaches who have unexpired contracts are paid even if the new HC offers them a job and they decline.

How often does this happen? I can't remember another case. It is common in the same sense that it's common procedure not to suspend coaches when they get caught in brazen cheating scandals.

I resent the stinky double standard. If you are high enough on the totem pole, you get a pass. If a player cheats with steroids, he's suspeded. If a player doesn't finish a contract, the team has him in court, arguing over how much of the signing bonus to recover.

A couple years back when so many HCs were let go there was mention about a lot of them getting paid. Most have very short contracts. My understanding is that other than coordinators or the elevated "assistant head coach" designees, most run-of-the-mill assistants have two year contracts. If the take another job, they only get the difference if their new job is less.