The Packers are going to lose (predictions)

[esoxx]

KC's offensive line is pourus. Even the unassuming Aaron Kampman admitted today that based on film he has watched, the Chiefs have had some problems on the line and they probably would have liked to have played better so far this season.

He's licking his chops. I assume the rest of the D-line is too. Like blood in the water, when you see stuff on tape that you know you can exploit, the juices start flowing and you expect to dominate.

Unless the Pack turns it over like against the Bears, I expect the Packers to dominate up front in a 20-10 victory.

[superfan]

They had very good teams. They no longer have Priest Holmes, Trent Green, Willie Roaf, Will Shields, John Tait, among others. I think they are a middle of the pack team. It will be a tossup because it's a tough place to play.

We won 20-something straight homes games. Then, we became an ordinary team and started losing home games.

Also, Mad is right. Dumb title for the thread.

As usual, Harvey steals my thunder. Agree with everything here.

Chiefs have great records dating back to the 90s, but this is one of their poorer teams in a while. And yes, Arrowhead has traditionally been a tough place to play, but McCarthy has shown he can win on the road, with 5 straight road wins and an 8-3 road record. Also perhaps in GB's favor is that Denver has the 2nd best home record dating back to 1990, and GB just showed they could win there.

The Chiefs were looking like a pretty bad team going into this season, and I don't see how they've improved markedly.

They have one quality win, beating the Chargers in San Diego. You could also argue that beating Cincinnati by 7 is a decent win, but the Bengals have been pretty disappointing. Other than that, they have an ugly 3 point home victory against Minnesota, and a 12-10 road win over the Raiders.

In their 3 losses, they lost by 17 to Houston, by 10 to the Bears and by 10 to Jacksonville.

Not a terribly impressive resume.

However, they have won 4 of their last 5, and I expect a tough, close game. I'm not overly confident, but GB should win this one. JH makes some good points about certain matchups favoring the Chiefs, but I don't see this as being the most difficult game remaining on the schedule.

[3irty1]

Anyone catch an episode of Hard Knocks on HBO?

It was a documentary on the Chiefs preseason in River Falls. I watched that and I was pretty sure that they were going to suck and suck big this year. Anyone else get the same vibe?

We've both been playing some inspiring football lately but they are very beatable. If we lose I have a feeling it will be a heart breaker.

[cpk1994]

This is a test for Bob Sanders; I'm still not completely on board with him

The defense should be able to contain LJ and unravel Huard with consistent pressure. KC should not score more than 17 points.

If Sanders and the defense do their job IMO GB should win.

If he can contain LT, he definitely can contain LJ.

[Tarlam!]

Ya have to wonder if they'll be double teaming against DD after watching game film of MNF.

If, as JH predicts, the TE and RB shred our defense, the only question is can their defense stop Favre? Since we already played the dome this year and won, MNF in Denver and won, I have to believe the team can play and win in Arrowhead.

Should be another thriller....

[Oscar]

I live here in Chiefs country and though I don't follow them much most of my friends do. Most think that the Packers will win. There big concern for the Chiefs is there O line.I see Kamp and company having a big game.The Pack take this one by 10.

[Bretsky]

JH is predicting a loss
I am predicting a win

What the hell is going on around here ???????????????????????

[Scott Campbell]

Anyway, once again I took Green Bay.....

Your such a homer.

[RashanGary]

Poopy is actuall decent near the line of scrimmage, keep him there, please.

I agree. He might be better than decent. It's time to just stick Hawk at SLB and keep him there. Let Poppinga do what he does well and have Hawk do the rest. It's a support role, but Hawk has a long career. He'll have his chance to get back on the weak side or middle at some point. Right now we need to win and get teh best team going into the post season this year. Poopy covering TE's isn't going to work.

[The Leaper]

Also perhaps in GB's favor is that Denver has the 2nd best home record dating back to 1990, and GB just showed they could win there.

I would agree...but one of the reasons we won at Denver was because we had a bye week before to prepare. It showed in the running game.

Guess who has the bye week this time around...and who is coming off a short week of prep?

I'm sorry Packer fans...I do think we have a better team than KC, but this week just doesn't line up very well for us. Very short prep time, very short recovery time...against an opponent who traditionally plays well in their place that is well rested and well prepared. Will we have opportunities? Absolutely. The game isn't out of reach...but I wouldn't make us a favorite.

If we get a win this week, I think we openly declare ourselves as the team to beat in the NFC. Even without a win, we are still in an excellent position with a couple of very winnable games before the two Thursday tilts.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Re: The Packers are going to lose (predictions)

1. KC is the toughest place to play in the NFL. They have the best home record in the NFL since 1990.

2. KC is coming off a bye week and the Packers are coming off a short week.

3. Great RB's with rested legs are SCARY!! LJ is going to be rested and ready

4. The Packers biggest weakness on D is covering the TE. That just happens to be KC's biggest offensive strength

5. The Packers did an average job of running the football against the worst run defense in the NFL. People are doing backflips about Grant, but really, he's proven NOTHING to this point.



This is the first game I'm predicting the Packers to lose this year. There are just too many things to overcome. The only good thing is they are on the 2nd week after the bye. Their timing and rythym should be better, and they should still have thier legs after the long week off. I could see the Packers playing good football. I just don't think it will be enough. That said, don't go cliff jumping after one loss: this might be the toughest game of the season.

Chiefs 20, Packers 17

Something doesn't add up here. After that tremendous, scary buildup in which you all but say a Pack win is impossible, you have the Pack losing by only a field goal! That tells me it's not the lock you think it is. A game decided by only a field goal can go either way. By the logic of your own final score prediction, the Pack's chances of winning are virtually the same as KC's.

How's that for old Maxie the Taxi triangulating with the new math?

(No offense, but if I were McCarthy, I'd use your post as bulletin board material.)

[MJZiggy]

Also perhaps in GB's favor is that Denver has the 2nd best home record dating back to 1990, and GB just showed they could win there.

I would agree...but one of the reasons we won at Denver was because we had a bye week before to prepare. It showed in the running game.

Guess who has the bye week this time around...and who is coming off a short week of prep?

I'm sorry Packer fans...I do think we have a better team than KC, but this week just doesn't line up very well for us. Very short prep time, very short recovery time...against an opponent who traditionally plays well in their place that is well rested and well prepared. Will we have opportunities? Absolutely. The game isn't out of reach...but I wouldn't make us a favorite.

If we get a win this week, I think we openly declare ourselves as the team to beat in the NFC. Even without a win, we are still in an excellent position with a couple of very winnable games before the two Thursday tilts.

So you think that just because a week has gone by that the offense has completely forgotten everything that they worked on in the bye week. I know football players are supposed to have a short memory, but I don't think that is what they meant. Also, I may not know M3 personally, but I have a feel for how he operates. You don't think he looked ahead at the schedule and realized the need to do some game prep for the short week when he had a week to spare? Add to that the fact that although it's a short week, at least there's some oxygen in KC cause there wasn't in Denver (which is probably why the D was so gassed).

I wouldn't rule this team out so quickly, and JH, what the hell is wrong with you? Predicting a loss? You? Come on now.

[The Leaper]

So you think that just because a week has gone by that the offense has completely forgotten everything that they worked on in the bye week.

No, I'm not suggesting our bye week now goes for naught. I'm suggesting that the same boost we got in our win over Denver is PRECISELY what KC will have against us. Some of the weaknesses everyone is pointing out and saying will make this game a win for us will be addressed and strengthened by KC in the bye week...just as our run game improved during our bye week.

In the NFL, extra prep is a big positive. Less prep is also a big negative, although I'm not sure we are at that disadvantage because I'm sure McCarthy and his crew prepped somewhat for KC during the bye week knowing that there would be a short week after Denver. What I'm more concerned about is the shortened week of physical recovery for the players.

It was mentioned that it shouldn't be tough to win at a hostile environment because of what we did last week. I am merely pointing out that the advantages we had last week are now turned against us. Combine that with KC's historic HFA, and this looks like it will be a tough game for GB to win. Not impossible, just very difficult.

[SkinBasket]

Poopy is actuall decent near the line of scrimmage, keep him there, please.

I agree. He might be better than decent. It's time to just stick Hawk at SLB and keep him there. Let Poppinga do what he does well and have Hawk do the rest. It's a support role, but Hawk has a long career. He'll have his chance to get back on the weak side or middle at some point. Right now we need to win and get teh best team going into the post season this year. Poopy covering TE's isn't going to work.

Anywhere you put Poppinga, he's less than decent. At the line, he's still confused, constantly runs into the back of the DLs on blitzes and stretch runs, and still has trouble being decisive about anything - which more often than not leaves him doing nothing, and doing nothing too late to boot.

You don't move Hawk around, ask him to change his role and learn another position because Poppinga sucks. You find a new linebacker that doesn't suck.

[Bossman641]

I see a Packers win. Kampman and Co. should dominate that OL. I'm actually not that worried about LJ. We have yet to really allow a RB to go off yet. Gonzalez, however, scares the daylights out of me. I don't know what it is, but the Packers always allow the TE's to torch them in the 1st half before shutting them down in the 2nd. They need to stop with Poppinga covering the TE or whatever they have been doing, and just use the 2nd half adjustments from the beginning of the game.

20-13
Packers win