Postgame Observations (Well, Just 2)

[FritzDontBlitz]

Ryan Grant is the real deal. He only had 19 carries for 55 yards, but he definitely hit the hole harder and finished his runs better than either Vernand Morency or Brandon Jackson. I swear, every time time Jackson's number is called for an inside run it looks like he turns sideways because he's afraid of getting hit.

Daryn Colledge is a bust. He has got to be the worst offensive lineman I have ever seen in Green Bay since Tony Mandarich. Jeez, he is re-inventing the "lookout" block every week.

Is it too late to re-sign Marco Rivera?

[Bretsky]

Agree on Grant

College does not seem to have taken the step ahead many hoped he would.

[Brohm]

I'm holding out hope for a year 3 jump just like we saw with Wahle and Rivera.

[Joemailman]

Re: Postgame Observations (Well, Just 2)

Ryan Grant is the real deal. He only had 19 carries for 55 yards, but he definitely hit the hole harder and finished his runs better than either Vernand Morency or Brandon Jackson. I swear, every time time Jackson's number is called for an inside run it looks like he turns sideways because he's afraid of getting hit.

Daryn Colledge is a bust. He has got to be the worst offensive lineman I have ever seen in Green Bay since Tony Mandarich. Jeez, he is re-inventing the "lookout" block every week.

Is it too late to re-sign Marco Rivera?

Have you forgotten Will Whitticker? I'll bet Favre hasn't. I agree with you on Grant. With more consistency from the OL, he can be very good. Colledge has to be the disappointment of the season. The Packers are exceeding expectations in large part because a lot of young guys have gotten better, but Colledge has regressed. Hopefully it's just a sophomore jinx.

[gbgary]

Re: Postgame Observations (Well, Just 2)

Ryan Grant is the real deal. / Daryn Colledge is a bust.

instead of jumping off the tower here you might want to make sure you have bungie attached. they're both young, raw, inexperienced. how many backs have come and gone in a flash? time will tell.

[FritzDontBlitz]

instead of jumping off the tower here you might want to make sure you have bungie attached. they're both young, raw, inexperienced. how many backs have come and gone in a flash? time will tell.

I'm not jumping off of anything about either, I was watching the entire game and Grant just showed himself to be the better runner: he has the best instinctive moves, he doesnt shy away from contact and he shows much more toughness when he's in the backfield taking the carries.

Grant was moving the pile for positive yardage even when there wasn't much of a hole to run through. Morency wasn't as good: he spent way too much time dancing around trying to find an opening instead of making the best of what he had. Jackson just looked the softest of the three: his best possible cut and run was in the 4th quarter when he saw the left side of the field wide open, unfortunately it was at the same time Colledge was being flagged for a false start. Grant is more decisive with his cuts; Morency and Jackson are way too tentative to have any success. Grant may not turn out to be a long term solution, but he's definitely performing better than the other two backs they have right now.

Just watch the film on Colledge's play throughout the entire season: he completely whiffs on more plays than any other lineman I have ever seen in my life - not only that, but most of the time after he has a breakdown he completely gives up on the play before the whistle. He'll miss a block, reach out with his hands to grab at the guy, then once the defender gets past him he'll just watch the play disintegrate instead of trying to hit someone else. Its the worst possible thing you can have from your interior linemen. If he was at tackle at least Brett could step up into the pocket to evade the outside rush - when Colledge has a breakdown there is no pocket for Favre to step up into. Those are the kinds of protection breakdowns s that 1.) prevent Favre from stepping into his throws to maximize their distance and velocity, 2.) cause unneccesary hits on your franchise QB, 3.) create unnecessary turnovers from hits or deflections (OK, I agree that the second pick with :35 left before the half was a bad idea, but Colledge compounded matters by allowing his man to get enough penetration to hit Favre's arm as he threw - and they were in the freakin shotgun at the time!), and worst of all, 4.) blocking breakdowns like the ones Colledge is constantly guilty of can often send your franchise QB into retirement due to a career ending injury or concussion.

The Packers need to find a solution for Colledge, and fast. If not, its just a matter of time before he gets someone killed. His pass protection has been just that bad.

[b bulldog]

Colledge really irks me. he totally sucks.... I almost wish Brett would have pulled a Holgren and chewed his butt out on the field for playing so lousey. He can't hold his position and he jumps too much

[gbpackfan]

Colledge had an absolutely terrible game. He doesn't seem strong enough to keep powerful DTs out of the back field. At this point, he can only be classified as a disappointment. I don't think it's going to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he looses his starting job when Juice is 100%. He's athletic as hell but he needs to get stronger.

[b bulldog]

Hate to bring this up by Shaun Rodgers is going to kill Brett unless something changes with our G's. Rodgers is playing lights out and he is one huuuge man.

[4and12to12and4]

I have to disagree, yes, Grant doesn't shy away from contact, but he causes a lot of contact that he could avoid with better vision and/or cutting ability. He seems very fast out there, but misses a lot of holes and possible extra yards. He did have a good game, but I still believe that all in all Brandon has better skills and tools, he's just younger and needs to figure out this scheme, and get time out there. He's better than Grant, by far. I'm telling you, Grant is not the answer. He will not be on this team next year. Brandon Jackson if he stays healthy will be our guy for years to come. He simply is the better athlete.

[Bretsky]

I have to disagree, yes, Grant doesn't shy away from contact, but he causes a lot of contact that he could avoid with better vision and/or cutting ability. He seems very fast out there, but misses a lot of holes and possible extra yards. He did have a good game, but I still believe that all in all Brandon has better skills and tools, he's just younger and needs to figure out this scheme, and get time out there. He's better than Grant, by far. I'm telling you, Grant is not the answer. He will not be on this team next year. Brandon Jackson if he stays healthy will be our guy for years to come. He simply is the better athlete.

In game one Grant had 57 of his yards after his first contact. Pretty unreal if you think about it. He has very good vision. Some Power. Decent Speed.
Much better than anything Jackson has shown up to this point at least. IMO our RB of the future is either Grant or not on this year's roster. I actually think Grant might be very solid as part of a one two punch.

I'm not bashing Jackson yet, but I definitely have not seen flashes yet that would illustrate he can be the guy. He didn't stand out in college as the #1 back and hasn't yet for us either.

[son of a vic]

Re: Postgame Observations (Well, Just 2)

Ryan Grant is the real deal. He only had 19 carries for 55 yards, but he definitely hit the hole harder and finished his runs better than either Vernand Morency or Brandon Jackson. I swear, every time time Jackson's number is called for an inside run it looks like he turns sideways because he's afraid of getting hit.

Daryn Colledge is a bust. He has got to be the worst offensive lineman I have ever seen in Green Bay since Tony Mandarich. Jeez, he is re-inventing the "lookout" block every week.

Is it too late to re-sign Marco Rivera?

Mike Wahle was a turnstile early in his career. I say by the end of the year, if he still looks this bad, then maybe move on. He'll probably get next season yet, then he'll be gone, if he can't improve.

[4and12to12and4]

I have to disagree, yes, Grant doesn't shy away from contact, but he causes a lot of contact that he could avoid with better vision and/or cutting ability. He seems very fast out there, but misses a lot of holes and possible extra yards. He did have a good game, but I still believe that all in all Brandon has better skills and tools, he's just younger and needs to figure out this scheme, and get time out there. He's better than Grant, by far. I'm telling you, Grant is not the answer. He will not be on this team next year. Brandon Jackson if he stays healthy will be our guy for years to come. He simply is the better athlete.

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree, I see the exact opposite, I see a guy in Jackson that has MUCH better cutting ability and breaks tackles while Grant goes down on contact. Jackson just needs to be more decisive. Grant is getting love from M3 because he reacts quickly and doesn't dance, if Jackson starts doing that he will show he is better, and Jackson has ability to make the big play also. Maybe I'm wrong, I just like what little I've seen of him. But, comparing these two and watching Adrian Peterson, just makes me want to puke. Almost 300 yards in a game, my God, that is just sick, congrats Rastak. You have just aquired one of the most exciting players in the NFL, and if stays healthy will start getting compared to some of the greatest backs of all time. Damn, I wish we had him. We would be unstoppable with him in our backfield with Favre and our defense, oh well, wish in one hand, shit in the other ...


In game one Grant had 57 of his yards after his first contact. Pretty unreal if you think about it. He has very good vision. Some Power. Decent Speed.
Much better than anything Jackson has shown up to this point at least. IMO our RB of the future is either Grant or not on this year's roster. I actually think Grant might be very solid as part of a one two punch.

I'm not bashing Jackson yet, but I definitely have not seen flashes yet that would illustrate he can be the guy. He didn't stand out in college as the #1 back and hasn't yet for us either.

[b bulldog]

Wynn, Jackson and Morency all are pretty bad at this moment.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Grant looks like the real deal. Jackson actually has some moves, but it seems like there's a guy in the backfield every time he runs (usually from the guy Colledge is supposed to block). Most of the time, I don't think there's much he can do.

I'm most disappointed in Colledge. His pass blocking has been solid up to this point, but he wasn't even that good in that this week. I'm starting to think we'd be better off with Spitz at LG and Coston or Moll at RG.