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  • I Was Wrong About Derek Anderson.

    When Derek Anderson was being considered as a pro prospect, I thought there was no way he could make it as a pro.

    I first saw him play when he was a high school senior. His undefeated, Scappoose, Oregon team played the undefeated high school of my town. Though our coach used all kinds of coverages and bliztes during the game, Anderson shredded our secondary for over 300 passing yards and the win!

    Anderson went down the highway to college at Oregon State. He became a starter during his sophomore year. At 6'6" and 235 lbs, he had excellent height and size. Furthermore, he had a strong arm and was a very accurate passer.

    His main drawback was his immobility. He was slow of foot and could not evade the blitz. As a kid, he wore size 17 shoes by the time he was 10! Opposing teams quickly learned the most effective way to corral Anderson was to send in their linebackers and an occassional safety to blitz. Anderson usually either had to throw the ball away or be sacked.

    In addition, Anderson had a tendency to focus in on his primary receiver rather than switch to a secondary receiver.

    Because of his poor running skills, I did not think Anderson had much of a chance to make it in the NFL.

    Baltimore drafted him in the 6th round. He was cut that September. Cleveland picked him up and he sat on the bench for most of his first 2 years in the pros.

    This year, Anderson beat out Charlie Frye as well as draftee Brady Quinn for the starting job. He has exceeded all expectations, especially mine! In addition, Anderson has actually ran for a couple of touchdowns! Maybe he hired some form of speed coach to improve his running ability.

    The time may come in the future where the Browns believe they have to start Quinn because of his enormous contract. If Anderson chooses to become a Free Agent, would you want TT to sign him?

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    Re: I Was Wrong About Derek Anderson.

    Originally posted by oregonpackfan
    When Derek Anderson was being considered as a pro prospect, I thought there was no way he could make it as a pro.

    I first saw him play when he was a high school senior. His undefeated, Scappoose, Oregon team played the undefeated high school of my town. Though our coach used all kinds of coverages and bliztes during the game, Anderson shredded our secondary for over 300 passing yards and the win!

    Anderson went down the highway to college at Oregon State. He became a starter during his sophomore year. At 6'6" and 235 lbs, he had excellent height and size. Furthermore, he had a strong arm and was a very accurate passer.

    His main drawback was his immobility. He was slow of foot and could not evade the blitz. As a kid, he wore size 17 shoes by the time he was 10! Opposing teams quickly learned the most effective way to corral Anderson was to send in their linebackers and an occassional safety to blitz. Anderson usually either had to throw the ball away or be sacked.

    In addition, Anderson had a tendency to focus in on his primary receiver rather than switch to a secondary receiver.

    Because of his poor running skills, I did not think Anderson had much of a chance to make it in the NFL.

    Baltimore drafted him in the 6th round. He was cut that September. Cleveland picked him up and he sat on the bench for most of his first 2 years in the pros.

    This year, Anderson beat out Charlie Frye as well as draftee Brady Quinn for the starting job. He has exceeded all expectations, especially mine! In addition, Anderson has actually ran for a couple of touchdowns! Maybe he hired some form of speed coach to improve his running ability.

    The time may come in the future where the Browns believe they have to start Quinn because of his enormous contract. If Anderson chooses to become a Free Agent, would you want TT to sign him?

    No, I'd like Speilman to sign him.

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    • #3
      Its hard to say anything bad about the guy. He's this years Tony Romo. If I were the Browns I'd find a way to keep him!
      70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 3irty1
        Its hard to say anything bad about the guy. He's this years Tony Romo. If I were the Browns I'd find a way to keep him!

        But they payed a big price for Quinn. What to do what to do?


        I'd try and keep him for at least one more year....to see what they have in Quinn....

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        • #5
          He's an RFA, so I expect the Browns to keep him one more year--unless they can get a king's ransom. They have nice young talent. I wouldn't be surprised if they became one of the best teams in the league by next year.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #6
            Nice to see him having a good year. In a way, he can thank Brady Quinn for holding out and getting into camp late, which IMO cost Quinn the starting job and allowing Anderson to showcase his talent.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rastak
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              Its hard to say anything bad about the guy. He's this years Tony Romo. If I were the Browns I'd find a way to keep him!

              But they payed a big price for Quinn. What to do what to do?


              I'd try and keep him for at least one more year....to see what they have in Quinn....


              This is a rerun of the Drew Brees/Phillip Rivers qb controversy in San Diego. I'm guessing that it gets resolved in much the same manner.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rastak


                I'd try and keep him for at least one more year....to see what they have in Quinn....
                Defense mechanism? Sounds like a fan; desperate for a QB, not wanting to get his hopes up
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  Originally posted by Rastak


                  I'd try and keep him for at least one more year....to see what they have in Quinn....
                  Defense mechanism? Sounds like a fan; desperate for a QB, not wanting to get his hopes up

                  Actually it sounds like a realistic view of the situation. Earlier in the year I thought they might get rid of him next year to make room for Quinn but now it seems to me they'll probably keep both as insurance. Isn't that what you'd do?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rastak
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    Originally posted by Rastak


                    I'd try and keep him for at least one more year....to see what they have in Quinn....
                    Defense mechanism? Sounds like a fan; desperate for a QB, not wanting to get his hopes up

                    Actually it sounds like a realistic view of the situation. Earlier in the year I thought they might get rid of him next year to make room for Quinn but now it seems to me they'll probably keep both as insurance. Isn't that what you'd do?
                    I was really surprised when they gave up on Frye so easily, but I guess thats why I'm not a GM.

                    It cant really hurt that he's throwing to Edwards and Winslow either. He's a RFA so Cleveland will probably put the high tender on him meaning any team that signs him has to give up a 1st and 3rd. A trade is more likely if they want Quinn starting, but that would start a revolt if Cleveland makes the playoffs.
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rastak
                      But they payed a big price for Quinn. What to do what to do?
                      Not really...at least not as far as the cap goes. Aaron Rodgers, picked roughly in the same area, doesn't really cost us that much.

                      The loss of a draft pick is a concern, but that is a sunk cost at this point. You were trying to get a good QB...and now you've got one. The Browns need to hang on to Anderson, and having Quinn as insurance probably isn't a bad idea. Anderson could be Romo...or he could be Scott Mitchell. No one knows for sure at this point. If Anderson proves himself over the course of the next season and a half, they can look to trade Quinn after 2008.
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                      • #12
                        Having two (potentially) good QB's is a nice luxury.

                        Unless someone makes a killer offer, CLE will keep Anderson and try to figure out what they have in Quinn.
                        Assuming he hasn't been stinking it up, I could see Quinn go head-to-head vs. Anderson in TC next year for the starting job. If Anderson wins, they let Quinn watch and learn. If Quinn wins that job, I don't know that they'd want to let Anderson walk as a UFA, so a trade would happen. What to do after that though?
                        How would Anderson take riding the pine after having success as a starter?
                        Would you trade Anderson for a lowball offer (like a R4 pick)?
                        Would you try to sign Anderson to an extension (and tie up a lot of cap space to 2 QB's)?

                        I don't think CLE will give up on Quinn before the end of next season...consider TT and A-Rod's 1st two pre-seasons.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          Originally posted by Rastak
                          But they payed a big price for Quinn. What to do what to do?
                          Not really...at least not as far as the cap goes. Aaron Rodgers, picked roughly in the same area, doesn't really cost us that much.

                          The loss of a draft pick is a concern, but that is a sunk cost at this point. You were trying to get a good QB...and now you've got one. The Browns need to hang on to Anderson, and having Quinn as insurance probably isn't a bad idea. Anderson could be Romo...or he could be Scott Mitchell. No one knows for sure at this point. If Anderson proves himself over the course of the next season and a half, they can look to trade Quinn after 2008.

                          The big price was trading next years #1, not the money.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rastak
                            The big price was trading next years #1, not the money.
                            Quinn still holds value. You might not get a 1st round pick out of him, but it isn't like they are out a first round pick with nothing in return. The current woes at QB around the league (and lack of any mega-star talents in college right now) mean that Quinn's value likely will remain rather high if they feel the need to move him.
                            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                            • #15
                              They'd be smart to keep him one more year, but the Browns are not in the same boat as the Chargers. Rivers was a top 5 pick and had too much money in both QB's, fortunately for them Rivers turned out pretty good. Anderson could make Quinn a long term backup like Rodgers.

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