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    Darren McFadden isn't half the running back prospect coming out of college that Adrian Peterson was. Other than injury concerns, it was quite obvious to me he was up there with Calvin is terms of ability to impact a game and just straight up being a freakish athlete.

    McFadden is an 8.0 if Peterson is a 10.0

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    I have also decided that I don't care for Felix Jones. He's fast, but he never gets any yards after contact.

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    • #3
      West Virginia's Noel Devine looks like he will be an NFL stud some day as well. He needs to thicken up, though. He breaks a lot of tackles.

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      • #4
        Re: Pre-emptive Strike

        Originally posted by Partial
        Darren McFadden isn't half the running back prospect coming out of college that Adrian Peterson was. Other than injury concerns, it was quite obvious to me he was up there with Calvin is terms of ability to impact a game and just straight up being a freakish athlete.

        McFadden is an 8.0 if Peterson is a 10.0

        He is 8/10 the RB?

        McFadden is very good - you are selling him short.

        Peterson - everyone knew he was a stud. Problem is he was injured often. His only full season was as a freshman in College. How will he hold up banging with the big boys? Time will tell.

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        • #5
          McFadden is good but he is not nearly as good as Peterson was in college. He doesn't dominate games and doesn't show up against good defenses. He had what 50 yards on 20 rushes against Auburn?!?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Partial
            McFadden is good but he is not nearly as good as Peterson was in college. He doesn't dominate games and doesn't show up against good defenses. He had what 50 yards on 20 rushes against Auburn?!?
            You are outta your mind. First, Mcfadden can do more than AD, better receiver, kick returner and played some QB.

            Furthermore, he plays in a much tougher conference.

            Second, selectively picking a game to justify your point is foolish.

            AD:
            04
            36 for 130 against Kstate?
            15 for 58 against Nebraska?
            25 for 82 against USC?
            29 for 101 against Texas A&M?

            All of those under 4 yards a carry.

            5.68 ypc average

            05

            22 for 63 against TC fucking U?
            23 for 58 against UCLA?
            29 for 108 against Texas Tech?
            24 for 80 against Oregon?

            That is two games under 3 yards a carry.

            5.0 ypc. average

            06

            20 for 77 against Boise State?

            Zero yards against Colo, Mizzou, A&M, TT, Baylor, OK State, and Nebraska.

            Season: 5.38 ypc.

            Mcfadden:

            This season 2 games under 4 ypc.

            5.92 ypc average. BETTER than any season AD had.

            06

            19 for 71 against Vandy.
            17 for 65 gainst Miss (a blowout win for Ark)
            26 for 84 gainst Miss St.
            21 for 73 against Florida.

            5.8 ypc average. BETTER than any season AD had.

            05

            2 games under 4 ypc.

            6.32 ypc. BETTER than any season AD had.

            By any objective standard, Mcfadden is more consistent, plays more games, acrues more yards, has a higher ypc average, passes, returns kicks, etc.

            And, he plays for a much more one dimensional team. Ark makes Oklahoma look like BYU or Hawaii. In 06 Ok had a passing rating of 144 while Ark was at 122. In 05 Ok had over 2000 yards passing, Ark didn't even break 1500.

            You tell me which team is easier to defend. Anyone who watched UW vs. Ark could plainly see that Ark's offense was basically Mcfadden and Jones. They couldn't even pass the ball.

            Is Mcfadden better than AD? I don't know. But, there is no way you can make an argument that he is half the player.

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            • #7
              I didn't say he was half the player, I said he was 8/10s the prospect.

              He doesn't have that extra gear, and he doesn't break as many tackles. He is extremely overrated. He will probably go #1 but he won't be the best back in the NFL or likely top 5. I would certainly take him to be on the Packers and I think he would start, but he is getting really overrated. He isn't and never will be in APs league. People knew Peterson since freshman year of HS. I doubt the same was said for McFadden.

              I don't necessarily think the SEC has been better than the Big-12.

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              • #8
                I don't follow college football too much except to watch the Gophers lose, but did McFadden stroll into Div I and put up 2000 yards as a true freshman?

                Man, that is some series stuff there. I haven't seen McFadden play so maybe he's just as good.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Furthermore, he plays in a much tougher conference.
                  I didnt know squat about any of these guys but right now I would have to say peterson is playing is the tougher conference.

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                  • #10
                    McFadden = Reggie Bush

                    A guy who can hurt you multiple ways, has tons of hype but not enough ability to ever live up to it.

                    He's not a bad player, simply different than Peterson.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #11
                      I like Rice from Rutgers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                        Furthermore, he plays in a much tougher conference.

                        Sorry, the SEC is tough. But the NFC North is tougher.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by esoxx
                          I like Rice from Rutgers.
                          Me too. A lot. Problem is he has so many carries on his body already. He won't time super fast but he's a good player. Reminds me of Marion Barber.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Furthermore, he plays in a much tougher conference.
                            I didnt know squat about any of these guys but right now I would have to say peterson is playing is the tougher conference.

                            My bad. You caught if first.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              West Virginia's Noel Devine looks like he will be an NFL stud some day as well. He needs to thicken up, though. He breaks a lot of tackles.
                              Do you even know anything about this kid?
                              This kid makes marshawn lynch look like an angel in terms of character, i think he had 4 kids with different mothers as sophomore. who know how many now... He was the kid deion sanders tried to adopt but noel didn't want to be so he stole deions car and flew back and enrolled back in his old school, i think north fort myers... HE is a freak though, amazing skills watching his sophomore game tape made my jaw drop...
                              Bottom line, if he keeps his act together he could have a great nfl career

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