Packer/Cowboy Game

[packinpatland]

I just read that the game will ONLY be carried on the NFL channel!

[mission]

so do what everyone else who follows the pack has to do when they dont live in wisconsin.

get in the car and go to a sports bar.

i read a lot of sunday threads about people "missing the game" cuz of some stupid TV thing. i cant imagine missing a game... put some effort into it. there are 16 games a year! that's it! i could never miss a game...

hell i usually wake up at 12:30 with horrible breath, my shoes still on and thinking im a half hour late before realizing i live in EST time now.

despite those conditions, i still had a miller lite girl insist i take her number... yummy. :P

[arcilite]

uh, welcome to like 6 months ago.

we've known this ever since the schedule came out.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm getting pissed. The Badger game Saturday against MN is on Big Ten Network.

Hope I don't shock anybody, but it seems like the football industry is squeezing the fans for more and more dollars. Those huge salaries for college facilities, college coaches, and NFL players have to come from somewhere.

[Harlan Huckleby]

uh, welcome to like 6 months ago.

we've known this ever since the schedule came out.

how nice for you to be so well informed.

[Harlan Huckleby]

get in the car and go to a sports bar.

bar stools hurt my butt after a couple hours. And that's if you are lucky enough to find a place to sit. ya, I'm soft and spoiled and too cheap to get premium tv.

[Rastak]

I'm getting pissed. The Badger game Saturday against MN is on Big Ten Network.

Hope I don't shock anybody, but it seems like the football industry is squeezing the fans for more and more dollars. Those huge salaries for college facilities, college coaches, and NFL players have to come from somewhere.

I'll sell you my ticket and you can go. I'm 12 rows off the field.

Lot of parents of the Gophers sit there, including this giant SOB so you'd have to be careful......man, red will outnumber maroon by a large margin.

[Harlan Huckleby]

thanks for offer, Rastak, but I'll probably travel to the Big Ten Pub. I'm not sure a Badger-Gopher game is gonna be one for the ages.

[Rastak]

thanks for offer, Rastak, but I'll probably travel to the Big Ten Pub. I'm not sure a Badger-Gopher game is gonna be one for the ages.

Totally agree, but the Packers-Cowboys game might be! That'll be a battle amd the winner will be in the NFC drivers seat.

[mission]

get in the car and go to a sports bar.

bar stools hurt my butt after a couple hours. And that's if you are lucky enough to find a place to sit. ya, I'm soft and spoiled and too cheap to get premium tv.

TJs in Roswell GA had almost 800 packer fans in it on sunday... way more than usual with all the f'n bandwagon casual fans there.

i had to stand... i feel i can drink more if im standing up so it worked out.

[Joemailman]

get in the car and go to a sports bar.

bar stools hurt my butt after a couple hours. And that's if you are lucky enough to find a place to sit. ya, I'm soft and spoiled and too cheap to get premium tv.

Directv is premium TV?

[Harlan Huckleby]

get in the car and go to a sports bar.

bar stools hurt my butt after a couple hours. And that's if you are lucky enough to find a place to sit. ya, I'm soft and spoiled and too cheap to get premium tv.

Directv is premium TV?

at my current income, color is premium

I'm only paying $18/month for basic cable, and it includes ESPN channels.

[Bretsky]

Re: Packer/Cowboy Game

I just read that the game will ONLY be carried on the NFL channel!

YUP; everybody needs to stop complaining and make their cable provider life's hell. And don't take their generic BS

[GBRulz]

Time Warner and Charter are clueless if they truly believe their subscribers that are dropping like flies has nothing to do with the NFL and BTN. I'm not saying that is the main reason, but it's a big reason.
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Article from JSOnline:

Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications, two major cable carriers in Wisconsin, are reporting they have lost thousands of cable subscribers, a development some tie to consumers upset that they can't get the Big Ten Network and the NFL Network.


Charter Tumbles
Charter Communications Inc. posted a record decline in Nasdaq trading Thursday after reporting a wider third-quarter loss and saying basic cable subscribers dropped service. The loss expanded to $407 million, or $1.10 a share, from $133 million, or 41 cents, a year earlier. St. Louis-based Charter said sales rose 9.9% to $1.53 billion. Expenses rose faster than sales, and the company had $452 million in interest costs in the quarter. Charter lost more than 40,000 basic cable subscribers during the period. Charter shares fell 62 cents, or 35%, to $1.16, the biggest drop since the company went public in November 1999. The stock has lost 62% this year.

While acknowledging the erosion of subscribers nationwide and in Wisconsin, spokesmen for both companies say other factors are behind the loss of cable subscribers. They include the downturn in the economy and the roiling of the housing market, as well as heightened competition from telephone companies in major cities around the country.

"The impact of not having the NFL Network or the Big Ten Network has been non-existent," said Alex Dudley, a Time Warner spokesman in New York.

Anita Lamont, a Charter Communications spokesman, echoed that comment, saying her firm had not seen a loss of customers due solely to people unhappy about not being able to purchase the two sports networks.

Time Warner Cable said Wednesday it had lost 83,000 subscribers in the three months ended Sept. 30, and another 57,000 in the three months prior. Time Warner has about 600,000 households in eastern Wisconsin.

Charter, which has 500,000 households in Wisconsin, reported Thursday it had lost 40,200 subscribers in the three months ended Sept. 30 and another 29,300 in the three months before.

At the same time, DirecTV, which has a contract to carry the Big Ten Network and the NFL Network, reported this week it had added 240,000 new subscribers as of Sept. 30, a 6% increase over a year earlier.

At the DISH network, which also has deals with the two sports networks, spokesman Parker McConachie said the company added 170,000 new subscribers in the second quarter.
On Wall Street, Charter shares fell 62 cents, or 35%, to $1.16. Time Warner closed at $25.82, down 55 cents.

Richard Greenfield, a cable television analyst with Pali Research, said this week that "while the pain inflicted on the cable industry for not carrying the Big Ten Network during college football season has been moderate, we believe the pain is set to reach a whole new level as college basketball season tips off in November."

Greenfield could not be reached for comment.

The Big Ten Network is scheduled to broadcast 140 men's basketball games this season. But the two major cable companies have not reached an agreement with either the NFL Network or the Big Ten Network. The two networks are pushing to be placed on expanded basic cable. The cable companies say customers are better served if the channels are placed on a digital sports tier. That way, customers who want more sports can pay for it, and those who don't won't have to pay extra.

Mark Silverman, president of the Big Ten Network, said the cable companies, especially Time Warner, have been saying that talks have been ongoing. The statement was repeated Thursday by Dudley, the Time Warner spokesman. But Silverman said that isn't the case.

"That's a blatant attempt to hold on to their subscribers," he said. "They are not negotiating and they say they are."

[Bretsky]

Time Warner and Charter are clueless if they truly believe their subscribers that are dropping like flies has nothing to do with the NFL and BTN. I'm not saying that is the main reason, but it's a big reason.
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Article from JSOnline:

Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications, two major cable carriers in Wisconsin, are reporting they have lost thousands of cable subscribers, a development some tie to consumers upset that they can't get the Big Ten Network and the NFL Network.


Charter Tumbles
Charter Communications Inc. posted a record decline in Nasdaq trading Thursday after reporting a wider third-quarter loss and saying basic cable subscribers dropped service. The loss expanded to $407 million, or $1.10 a share, from $133 million, or 41 cents, a year earlier. St. Louis-based Charter said sales rose 9.9% to $1.53 billion. Expenses rose faster than sales, and the company had $452 million in interest costs in the quarter. Charter lost more than 40,000 basic cable subscribers during the period. Charter shares fell 62 cents, or 35%, to $1.16, the biggest drop since the company went public in November 1999. The stock has lost 62% this year.

While acknowledging the erosion of subscribers nationwide and in Wisconsin, spokesmen for both companies say other factors are behind the loss of cable subscribers. They include the downturn in the economy and the roiling of the housing market, as well as heightened competition from telephone companies in major cities around the country.

"The impact of not having the NFL Network or the Big Ten Network has been non-existent," said Alex Dudley, a Time Warner spokesman in New York.

Anita Lamont, a Charter Communications spokesman, echoed that comment, saying her firm had not seen a loss of customers due solely to people unhappy about not being able to purchase the two sports networks.

Time Warner Cable said Wednesday it had lost 83,000 subscribers in the three months ended Sept. 30, and another 57,000 in the three months prior. Time Warner has about 600,000 households in eastern Wisconsin.

Charter, which has 500,000 households in Wisconsin, reported Thursday it had lost 40,200 subscribers in the three months ended Sept. 30 and another 29,300 in the three months before.

At the same time, DirecTV, which has a contract to carry the Big Ten Network and the NFL Network, reported this week it had added 240,000 new subscribers as of Sept. 30, a 6% increase over a year earlier.

At the DISH network, which also has deals with the two sports networks, spokesman Parker McConachie said the company added 170,000 new subscribers in the second quarter.
On Wall Street, Charter shares fell 62 cents, or 35%, to $1.16. Time Warner closed at $25.82, down 55 cents.

Richard Greenfield, a cable television analyst with Pali Research, said this week that "while the pain inflicted on the cable industry for not carrying the Big Ten Network during college football season has been moderate, we believe the pain is set to reach a whole new level as college basketball season tips off in November."

Greenfield could not be reached for comment.

The Big Ten Network is scheduled to broadcast 140 men's basketball games this season. But the two major cable companies have not reached an agreement with either the NFL Network or the Big Ten Network. The two networks are pushing to be placed on expanded basic cable. The cable companies say customers are better served if the channels are placed on a digital sports tier. That way, customers who want more sports can pay for it, and those who don't won't have to pay extra.

Mark Silverman, president of the Big Ten Network, said the cable companies, especially Time Warner, have been saying that talks have been ongoing. The statement was repeated Thursday by Dudley, the Time Warner spokesman. But Silverman said that isn't the case.

"That's a blatant attempt to hold on to their subscribers," he said. "They are not negotiating and they say they are."

THIS IS GREAT SHIT

I'M CALLING THOSE CHARTER ZERO'S AGAIN TONIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!



THANKS GBM