Running game

[oregonpackfan]

Wist said, "I'll give Barnett his due though, he's played well."

Praise the Lord! Miracles do happen!

[wist43]

Wist, how do you feel about Corey Williams? Has he warranted an extension? I personally think it'd be a mistake to let him go despite the depth. Besides Kampman, I am having a difficult time determining who the second best player is on the line. I think they gotta lock him up because if they lose him they lose a versatile guy who gets great penetration from the inside.

It might cost 'em a lot, but its worth it after seeing the results of 4 quarters of solid pressure.

Williams is a vital cog IMO, and should have already been extended... the catch will be if TT thinks Harrell can step in w/o missing a beat. We certainly haven't seen any evidence to indicate that, but TT took a lot of heat for the Harrell pick, and might feel the need to justify it by letting Williams walk.

If Williams does resign, where would Harrell fit??? Can't see Harrell moving Williams, Jolly, or Pickett out of the rotation.

Maybe he resigns Williams with the expectation that Pickett will be gone... anyway you slice it, I want to keep Williams.

[Tarlam!]

If Williams does resign, where would Harrell fit??? Can't see Harrell moving Williams, Jolly, or Pickett out of the rotation.

Maybe he resigns Williams with the expectation that Pickett will be gone... anyway you slice it, I want to keep Williams.

You know I bow to your prowess of knowing good defensive football players, and, after I had supported NB avidly for three year you finally had me convinced he was a bum. Then he turns around and play pro bowl-like ball!

Now you would have me believe TT used a first round pick on Harrell and that Harrell will not provide an upgrade next year? Sorry Wisty, I aint buying it. Harrell will become the signature of this D-Line as early as next year. Inn TT I trust.

I still would sign Williams, though!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

We haven't seen Harrell much, but we didn't see Jolly much last year and he's made tremendous strides in his second year. I have hope. Imagine if he pans out like Jolly. Then, we'd have three good run stuffing studs in the middle. I like that depth. Good rotation, and if one goes down, you have yourself covered.

[swede]

Re: Running game

I broke my foot trying to catch the friggin cat

I don't have as much trouble reaching the cats in my neighborhood since I put a scope on my rifle.

I think you're right that MM and Philbin are finding ways to scheme their way into an effective running game, and the success of Favre and the passing attack helps as well.

And if Barnett keeps playing this way he may never get another jaywalking ticket in Green Bay again.

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Wist, how do you feel about Corey Williams? Has he warranted an extension? I personally think it'd be a mistake to let him go despite the depth. Besides Kampman, I am having a difficult time determining who the second best player is on the line. I think they gotta lock him up because if they lose him they lose a versatile guy who gets great penetration from the inside.

It might cost 'em a lot, but its worth it after seeing the results of 4 quarters of solid pressure.

Williams is a vital cog IMO, and should have already been extended... the catch will be if TT thinks Harrell can step in w/o missing a beat. We certainly haven't seen any evidence to indicate that, but TT took a lot of heat for the Harrell pick, and might feel the need to justify it by letting Williams walk.

If Williams does resign, where would Harrell fit??? Can't see Harrell moving Williams, Jolly, or Pickett out of the rotation.

Maybe he resigns Williams with the expectation that Pickett will be gone... anyway you slice it, I want to keep Williams.

Same here. I don't think you can let Williams go based on an unknown player behind him. Jolly and Pickett are very solid, but having that dynamite third guy in that rotation really helps keep them fresh. Plus, if they have an injury at DE they don't need to start KGB if they resign him.

No matter how you slice it, I want him back. If Harrell turns out to be a stud, then fine, trade him then. But, until then, it would be very unwise to let him walk.

[wist43]

If Williams does resign, where would Harrell fit??? Can't see Harrell moving Williams, Jolly, or Pickett out of the rotation.

Maybe he resigns Williams with the expectation that Pickett will be gone... anyway you slice it, I want to keep Williams.

You know I bow to your prowess of knowing good defensive football players, and, after I had supported NB avidly for three year you finally had me convinced he was a bum. Then he turns around and play pro bowl-like ball!

Now you would have me believe TT used a first round pick on Harrell and that Harrell will not provide an upgrade next year? Sorry Wisty, I aint buying it. Harrell will become the signature of this D-Line as early as next year. Inn TT I trust.

I still would sign Williams, though!!

Hey Tar, how are things on the other side of the pond??? Did you come over for the PR game??? I've missed out on a lot in the last couple months.

Barnett hasn't been doing any of things I've criticized him for in the past... it's that simple. Do things right, I'm a happy camper.

I can live with a team getting beat b/c of a talent gap, but I have no tolerance for stupid football... and heretofor, Barnett had been a stupid, unistinctive football player.

This year, he's playing well - very well actually... last year he played ok. Two years... we may have a trend starting.

[Joemailman]

Back to the running game. The interior OL has been in flux all year due to injuries to Wells and Spitz. Last Sunday was only the second game this year that the Pack has had their starting OL intact. I'm hoping that a little more cohesiveness on the OL, as well as the fact that Grant is now the established RB, will lead to some consistency in the running game. If it does, I think the Pack is as good as Dallas.