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Originally posted by woodbuck27Alot that really piss's me off, has to do with what appears to me as obvious inactivity on behalf of Ted Thompson to gain weapons on 'O' to combine with Brett Favre's talent.
That talent will soon disappear.
Thus early in my history with all of you at JSO. I posted in respect to what appeared to me, to be an obvious effort on behalf of TT to force Brett Favre into retirement.
Death of Brett Favre . . . by ignoring Favre's need of talented weapons.
Exit Ahman Green and doesn't the same ole same ole still apply?
This constant trend to ignore acquisition of talented playmakers on 'O' is obvious and extremely frustrating to me.
Thus sometimes I get grumpy.
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Originally posted by PacknutMoss will help Favre and that's all that counts in my book. Besides, what else do we have to look forward to this season? Right now it look's pretty boring does'nt it? As it stands, our offense is down-right pathetic and would be hard pressed to avg better than 14 ppg. At least watching Brett throw up some bombs to Randy would add some excitement to the equation.
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I'll admit I'm a homer. I go into every year very optimistic about the Packer's chances. That being said, I usually support the decisions of management, in this case TT. Although I find the beginning of free agency a bit anti-climatic since TT doesn't seem interested in getting into bidding wars.
I, like most people on this board DON'T agree with EVERYTHING TT has done. I was stunned when TT passed over Chad Jackson in last year's draft. He obviously knew something I didn't. But that doesn't surprise me since it is his job to evaluate talent. Unlike many fans who merely read draft publications and watch youtube clips and proclaim themselves experts.
Even though GM's get payed to evaluate talent it doesn't always mean they will be good at it. Tom Braatz proved that. It is for this reason that I understand why Merlin, Woody and Packnut have been very critical of TT. 4-12 does leave a sour taste in your mouth. But even though I understand how they became bitter toward TT I am confused as to why the bitterness still remains?? This team looks solid today and appears to have a solid future.
I've debated with plenty of people who will stick to their guns even when the facts strongly indicate they are wrong. I'm guessing you guys remember PackerPro42? Well, he's my nephew and he's a very intelligent, and stubborn, young man. His position on Chad Jackson alienated him from this board. He took a lot of crap from many on this board because he continued to push the Jackson argument. But I will say, even he has changed his opinion considering how Jackson's career has gone. My point is, why beat a dead horse?? TT has proven to be a competent GM. Some may not agree with every move he has made but as he says "the proof is in the pudding". GB is 8-1 and has an extremely young and talented roster.
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Originally posted by JustinHarrellIf the Packers are going to grow, it's going ot be from within just like every other team in the NFL. FA is the absolute worste way to fill a hole and should always be a last resort.
We don't have any holes as bad as CB was last year and with that in mind; I could care less if we get any FA's at all.
I'm looking forward to the draft. I'm also hopefull that the youngest team in the league gets alot better with a year of experience under everyones belts.
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Originally posted by StPaulPackFanHis position on Chad Jackson alienated him from this board.
I don't buy it.
His ego/stubboness alienated him from the board. We live in a big boy world. You take your lumps, and move on, or you perish.
Lombardi said, "It's not whether you get knocked down, it's whether you get up." Well PackerPro42 decided not to get up.
He could still come back, take a little grief from BallHawk, and get back to posting. We all say stupid stuff. So what.
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Originally posted by cpk1994Cut Merlin a little slack. At least he has posted in this thread unlike the other member of the "TT Sucks" Fan Club, cough* Woody *cough.
You guys need to ease up on Merlin. He was away all that time because he had to show Daniel Jackson how to build a weapon that was capable of destroying ascendant beings in order to defeat the Ori before they completely overran our galaxy.
OK, sorry about injecting the "Stargate" reference, but I've been away for a while and even if i tried I could never open up a can of whoopass that compares to the onslaught of Scott Campbell.
This shit is just too funny to read sometimes. Well done.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled rant, already in progress...Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.
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Originally posted by StPaulPackFanI'll admit I'm a homer. I go into every year very optimistic about the Packer's chances. That being said, I usually support the decisions of management, in this case TT. Although I find the beginning of free agency a bit anti-climatic since TT doesn't seem interested in getting into bidding wars.
I, like most people on this board DON'T agree with EVERYTHING TT has done. I was stunned when TT passed over Chad Jackson in last year's draft. He obviously knew something I didn't. But that doesn't surprise me since it is his job to evaluate talent. Unlike many fans who merely read draft publications and watch youtube clips and proclaim themselves experts.
Even though GM's get payed to evaluate talent it doesn't always mean they will be good at it. Tom Braatz proved that. It is for this reason that I understand why Merlin, Woody and Packnut have been very critical of TT. 4-12 does leave a sour taste in your mouth. But even though I understand how they became bitter toward TT I am confused as to why the bitterness still remains?? This team looks solid today and appears to have a solid future.
I've debated with plenty of people who will stick to their guns even when the facts strongly indicate they are wrong. I'm guessing you guys remember PackerPro42? Well, he's my nephew and he's a very intelligent, and stubborn, young man. His position on Chad Jackson alienated him from this board. He took a lot of crap from many on this board because he continued to push the Jackson argument. But I will say, even he has changed his opinion considering how Jackson's career has gone. My point is, why beat a dead horse?? TT has proven to be a competent GM. Some may not agree with every move he has made but as he says "the proof is in the pudding". GB is 8-1 and has an extremely young and talented roster.
Good post. Tell him to come back to the fray, eat his crow, and get back into the fun of things. He was a pretty cool little guy.
As for everyone else, give Merlin some credit for sticking around and sticking to his guns. I respect that in a person.
I think needing to show off that you were right and others were wrong makes you a much bigger chump than whoever was wrong. Bragging doesn't make you cool in my book.
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Good post. I am about as pro TT as anyone and I have yet to see any of the blind faith loyalty the anti's talk about. I don't mind when people are critical of TT. I did not like the hire of MM as HC for the sole reason that he was not very successful in the OC positions he held. I realized, however, that I had never met MM or knew that much about his football intelligence, so I couldn't entirely judge the move.Originally posted by StPaulPackFan. . .
I, like most people on this board DON'T agree with EVERYTHING TT has done. I was stunned when TT passed over Chad Jackson in last year's draft. He obviously knew something I didn't. But that doesn't surprise me since it is his job to evaluate talent. Unlike many fans who merely read draft publications and watch youtube clips and proclaim themselves experts.
Even though GM's get payed to evaluate talent it doesn't always mean they will be good at it. Tom Braatz proved that. It is for this reason that I understand why Merlin, Woody and Packnut have been very critical of TT. 4-12 does leave a sour taste in your mouth. But even though I understand how they became bitter toward TT I am confused as to why the bitterness still remains?? This team looks solid today and appears to have a solid future.
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I think it funny when the critics rip TT for things like drafting Jones. Never having seen him play, talked the guy, talked to his coaches, or work him out. Yet they can be critical about something they know very little about. They then attack TT personally for being cheep, trying to run Favre out of town, trying to destroy the Packers, desiring to exert his ego despite all costs and other such stupid drivel.
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Well said Cheesner. I don't jump on this board to get angry and blog-rage at people under the sweet anonymity of the internet. I get on to learn and laugh and argue. If people say stupid stuff call them on it and present your facts and laugh away.Originally posted by cheesnerI think it funny when the critics rip TT for things like drafting Jones. Never having seen him play, talked the guy, talked to his coaches, or work him out. Yet they can be critical about something they know very little about. They then attack TT personally for being cheep, trying to run Favre out of town, trying to destroy the Packers, desiring to exert his ego despite all costs and other such stupid drivel.
The whole eat-crow thread is an excellent example of the large number of Rats that don't themselves too seriously and can enjoy a good laugh at their own expense.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by PacknutSadly, some don't get it and never will. This is'nt about whether or not Thompson should have matched Houston's offer. It's about how time and time again, Thompson has NO BACK-UP PLAN.
Not one of us can predict how Green will do in his next 2 seasons, so to say with certain clarity that his deal is good or bad for Houston is point-less.
Once again though, the common theme here by a few is once a player leaves Green Bay for money, it's time to rip him and say he is'nt talented anymore. Now it's time to find fault with him. Funny thing is it's always the same members doing it. They did it with Walker and now are doing it with Green. I guess once a player takes off the green and gold, he automatically loses all his talent. This is pure BULLSHIT and shows a definite lack of class by those doing it.
I happen to agree with Thompson's choice not to Pay Green. However, once again as it happened before, Teddy does not have any plan B when plan A blows up. THAT is why he's not the "god" of GM's like some here claim. He loses Wahle and Rivera and his back-up plan? Sign 2 clowns to replace them who had NO TALENT. Lose Walker and his back-up plan? Draft a rookie who is gonna take time to develope. Lose your #1 RB and then wait until AFTER the fact to scramble looking for a replacement.
Very poor planning. No successful CEO of ANY business would run a company like this. Things seldom go as you plan and that is why you always have contingency plans in place...........
I sure wish Ted had a backup plan, because this one sure ain't a workin.
And on the Ahman Green front, guess who's missing the next game??
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Make sure you read the comment after the story. It's pretty funny.
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