Ted Gains National Support

[SkinBasket]

From JSO:

"Ted Thompson, the general manager, is doing a great job," Fox studio analyst Jimmy Johnson said. "(So is) Mike McCarthy, the head coach. The key to winning in this league is not coaching. It's bringing in the talent. They fill in when they have an injury. They bring in another guy. You say, 'Who is this?' And they are winning with him."

This from an ex-coach, mind you.

[cpk1994]

You might want to send that to Merlin and Woody. If Jimmy JOhnson can't convince them, there is no hope.

[Deputy Nutz]

Don't try to reason with Merlin or Woody, they have egg on their face and are such slobs they can't even wipe it off, they wear it as a badge of honor. One word for guys like that, "retards".

[cheesner]

Re: Ted Gains National Support

From JSO:

"Ted Thompson, the general manager, is doing a great job," Fox studio analyst Jimmy Johnson said. "(So is) Mike McCarthy, the head coach. The key to winning in this league is not coaching. It's bringing in the talent. They fill in when they have an injury. They bring in another guy. You say, 'Who is this?' And they are winning with him."

This from an ex-coach, mind you.

I heard this also.

He is not just an ex-coach. He is also an ex-GM from his days at Miami. Who would know better than someone who has done both?

[Carolina_Packer]

Don't try to reason with Merlin or Woody, they have egg on their face and are such slobs they can't even wipe it off, they wear it as a badge of honor. One word for guys like that, "retards".

I prefer the word dour. Plus, it might force them to look it up. OK, here it is:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/dour

Does it fit?

[mmmdk]

Re: Ted Gains National Support

From JSO:

"Ted Thompson, the general manager, is doing a great job," Fox studio analyst Jimmy Johnson said. "(So is) Mike McCarthy, the head coach. The key to winning in this league is not coaching. It's bringing in the talent. They fill in when they have an injury. They bring in another guy. You say, 'Who is this?' And they are winning with him."

This from an ex-coach, mind you.

This 'who is this?' theory has major flaws; just count the times you, yourself, said: 'who is this?' about Taco, Gado plus many others during the Packer 2005/06 seasons. Coaching, preparation and mentality has loads to do with it. 80% of the players in the NFL have virtually the same talent; again coaching, preparation and mentality. Another 10% are scrubs and 10% are superior talents. You need a few superstars and coaches/leaders to show the way for the rest.

Coaching is paramount.

[SkinBasket]

Re: Ted Gains National Support

From JSO:

"Ted Thompson, the general manager, is doing a great job," Fox studio analyst Jimmy Johnson said. "(So is) Mike McCarthy, the head coach. The key to winning in this league is not coaching. It's bringing in the talent. They fill in when they have an injury. They bring in another guy. You say, 'Who is this?' And they are winning with him."

This from an ex-coach, mind you.

This 'who is this?' theory has major flaws; just count the times you, yourself, said: 'who is this?' about Taco, Gado plus many others during the Packer 2005/06 seasons. Coaching, preparation and mentality has loads to do with it. 80% of the players in the NFL have virtually the same talent; again coaching, preparation and mentality. Another 10% are scrubs and 10% are superior talents. You need a few superstars and coaches/leaders to show the way for the rest.

Coaching is paramount.

You'll have to forgive me for going with Jimmy Johnson over a Euro on this one.

I remember plenty of "Who is this?" concerning Jennings, Jones, Grant, Bigby, and Crosby too. You can't just pick out the ones who didn't stick as evidence of your opinion.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You can coach guys all you want, but if they don't have talent and football intelligence they won't amount to jack. Sherman wasn't a bad coach. He didn't do himself any favors as GM though. Instead of finding Ruvell Martin, he found Taco Wallace.

[mraynrand]

You can coach guys all you want, but if they don't have talent and football intelligence they won't amount to jack. Sherman wasn't a bad coach. He didn't do himself any favors as GM though. Instead of finding Ruvell Martin, he found Taco Wallace.

I see your point, Harv, but this is a bad example. The difference was in the numbers. Sherman put his eggs into too few baskets - triangulating on specific players and blowing picks to move and get them. If you look at draft numbers, the percentages are pretty consistent - 30-40% of draft picks pan out. So if you increase your number of draft picks like TT, you just get more guys. Sherman actually did OK, but since he traded picks to move, his numbers were reduced to start and he didn't get enough guys. But that's only part of the Sherman failure story - I only wanted to make that one point, not rehash all of the Sherman 'legacy.'

[Carolina_Packer]

Right, I always said, Mike Sherman really was the one who fired himself as HC, by his overall performance as GM. How many times did moving up, or giving up picks work out for Sherman? You are lessening the number of chances you have to hit on a good player. I think TT is also better at finding the "who is that?" type guy than Sherman ever was.

[Fritz]

Being a TT supporter from the beginning, I am glad to see that he's getting some credit, cuz he sure took a lot of criticism for: 1) loving draft picks too much, 2) not renegotiating and re-signing Sharper, Wahle, Green, and Walker, 3) re-negotiating and resigning Bubba Franks, 4) not rtrading for Moss, and 5) not signing any big name free agents.

Some of the criticisms were valid, but TT seemed to generate an extraordinary amount of anger due perhaps to his tight-lipped demeanor. So it's nice to see him get some credit.

Heck, this team has way surpassed my expectations so far. I thought they'd be on a gradual uptick this season - went for a strong finish and a 9-7 record prediction. Oops. Glad to be wrong, though.

[SkinBasket]

I think TT is also better at finding the "who is that?" type guy than Sherman ever was.

Hell, Sherman had trouble picking "I know who that is" guys too. You know what they say, "Sweet dreams lead to bitter reality."

[mraynrand]

I think TT is also better at finding the "who is that?" type guy than Sherman ever was.

Hell, Sherman had trouble picking "I know who that is" guys too. You know what they say, "Sweet dreams lead to bitter reality."

That's the part I disagree with. Ok, so 2004 could have been a trend towards bad picks, but Sherman picked for 3 years and brought in some solid talent. Just not enough, because he didn't value picks enough. But Barnett, Kampman, Williams, Wells, Jenkins, and trading a #2 for Harris, gives him 6 solid starters on this squad (I know Williams isn't technically a starter, but effectively he is starting material). He also picked Walker and Davenport and brought in some effective "who is that" type guys like Fisher and Barry. Again, I don't know if his success with picks depended entirely on Hatley, and I don't know why he traded away picks to move up for guys that may have been around when he drafted - the bottom line is that he did bring in some pretty talented guys, but the bleeding away of numbers did hurt the Packer's depth - and 2004 was an absolute GM disaster of a year.

[MadtownPacker]

It's funny how all of you think Thompson give a damn about your support or if you are a "TT backer". Please, he would spit on you and ask you to bring his car from the parking garage.

[MJZiggy]

It's funny how all of you think Thompson give a damn about your support or if you are a "TT backer". Please, he would spit on you and ask you to bring his car from the parking garage.

I don't think he's letting any of us drive his car. Besides, last I heard he rides a bike most days. Don't know if he'd let any of us ride that either...