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    Ritual of Harassment At Jets Games

    By DAVID PICKER,The New York Times


    At halftime of the Jets’ home game against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, several hundred men lined one of Giants Stadium’s two pedestrian ramps at Gate D. Three deep in some areas, they whistled and jumped up and down. Then they began an obscenity-laced chant, demanding that the few women in the gathering expose their breasts.

    When one woman appeared to be on the verge of obliging, the hooting and hollering intensified. But then she walked away, and plastic beer bottles and spit went flying. Boos swept through the crowd of unsatisfied men.

    Marco Hoffner, an 18-year-old from Lacey Township, N.J., was expecting to see more. Not from the Jets — they pulled off a big upset over the Steelers. He wanted more from the alternative halftime show that, according to many fans, has been a staple at Jets home games for years.

    “Very disappointed, because we’re used to seeing a lot,” Hoffner said.

    The mood of previous Gate D crowds — captured on video clips posted on YouTube — sometimes bordered on hostile, not unlike the spirit of infamously aggressive European soccer hooligans. One clip online shows a woman being groped by a man standing next to her.

    Sunday’s scene played out for about 20 minutes, and at least one woman granted the men’s request, setting off a roar as if the former star running back Curtis Martin had just scored a touchdown. Martin was actually nearby, being honored on the field in the official halftime show, which had a far less intense audience.

    Throughout halftime, about 10 security guards in yellow jackets stood near the bottom of the circular, multilevel ramp, located beyond the stadium’s concourse of concession stands and restrooms. One of the guards was smoking a cigarette; many fans do the same during halftime on the giant ramps, which are located at each corner of the stadium. Another guard later said they were not permitted to do anything about the chants at Gate D because of free speech laws. Yet when a reporter tried to interview two security guards after halftime, he was detained in a holding room, threatened with arrest and asked to hand over his tape recorder.

    The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which provides security at Giants Stadium for Jets and Giants games, is aware of the raucous and raunchy halftime show. Patrick C. Aramini, the authority’s vice president for security, parking and traffic for the Meadowlands Sports Complex, said men and women could be expelled and even turned over to the New Jersey State Police to be arrested for their participation — although he said he did not know if anyone was cited Sunday. He added that other measures, like blocking access to the ramps, were being considered.

    “The problem is, you got to watch four or five hundred people sometimes in the one particular spiral,” Aramini said.
    “What do we do, arrest everybody that starts chanting?”

    Such fan behavior is not uncommon at other sporting events in the United States, like Nascar races and the infield at the Kentucky Derby. There was even an infamous undressing in the National Football League’s marquee event: during the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show, a “wardrobe malfunction” exposed Janet Jackson’s right breast before a worldwide televised audience.

    But the Gate D tradition at Giants Stadium apparently is unique to Jets games; the Gate D ramps are comparatively empty at Giants games. Perhaps forlorn Jets fans, who have rarely had a winning team to support, are seeking alternative entertainment on game days.

    “This is the game,” said Patrick Scofield, a 20-year-old from Poughkeepsie, N.Y., who has attended several Jets games the last two seasons.

    Denisse Rivera, a 23-year-old from the Bronx, was on a first date Sunday. When she arrived at the crowd at Gate D, several men pointed at her, signaling men at all levels to chant in her direction. After a brief moment of hesitation, she flashed them. Then she took a bow.

    “I don’t care,” Rivera said when told that video clips of previous incidents, taken on cellphones, ended up online. “I love my body and I like what I have, so let everybody share it.”

    Two security guards soon approached Rivera. The guards warned her about indecent exposure laws, she said, and let her go.

    Jets officials declined to be interviewed about the halftime tradition at their home games. In a statement, the team said: “We expect our fans to comply with all rules at the stadium, and the vast majority do. For those who don’t, we expect and encourage N.J.S.E.A. security to take appropriate action.”

    Greg Aiello, an N.F.L. spokesman, said, “I would defer any comment to law enforcement and the people on the stadium authority there that are in charge of fan-conduct issues.”

    The State Police staffs every Jets home game. But Sgt. Stephen Jones, a spokesman, said the State Police did not make an attempt to prevent fans from congregating in Giants Stadium. But he said that there were incidents of fans throwing money into the center of the spiral ramps. Those fans then threw objects at children picking up the money. Access to the center of the ramps is now blocked off by a chain-link fence.

    “Our emphasis is certainly not general security,” Jones said. “Something like you’re describing, the stairwell behavior, is a matter that the security would handle. Now if they come up with something where somebody needs to be arrested, the troops will go out there and affect that arrest.”

    Some parents are not pleased with the halftime activities away from the field.

    Randall Lazzaro, a 40-year-old from New Jersey, attended Sunday’s game with his wife and two sons, ages 6 and 9. He was at the base of Gate D shortly before halftime and said that cursing at games was probably the main reason parents did not want to take their kids to games.

    When Lazzaro was told what was about to happen on the ramps at Gate D, he said, “That’s a disgusting practice and the police have to get involved, put a stop to it.”

  • #2
    I would be willing to bet that a considerable amount of this behavior is alcohol-fueled.

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    • #3
      Sad and disturbing. If you were taking your kid to a game, how would you explain that? Why should you have to? Makes those male fans seem like a bunch of misgoynistic creeps.
      "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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      • #4
        SEEM?
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #5
          The idea that the guards can do nothing because of free speech laws is nonsense. A ticket is a license to attend the game, and can be revoked for any number of reasons.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #6
            When we were at the PR game, there was an announcement over the PA before the game saying that they expected Packer fans to be respectful and that you could and would get tossed for profanity.
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #7
              I love a nice rack flashed my way on occasion....but that is barbaric. True knuckle dragging savages. The NFL better clean that up before the prudes in Congress catch wind of it. They have nothing better to do.
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Freak Out
                I love a nice rack flashed my way on occasion...
                LOL!

                Does that happen....on occasion? :P

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                • #9
                  People talk about how "tough & rude" Philladelphia fans are, but let me tell you something, the Jets fans are about the worst I've ever seen. Ofcourse there are many good ones, but Jet fans seem to run in packs, and feed off each others energy. This is just another example of the poor behaviour of Jet fans(in general)
                  My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hurleyfan
                    People talk about how "tough & rude" Philladelphia fans are, but let me tell you something, the Jets fans are about the worst I've ever seen. Ofcourse there are many good ones, but Jet fans seem to run in packs, and feed off each others energy. This is just another example of the poor behaviour of Jet fans(in general)
                    Bills, Browns and Steeler fans are just as goofy as Philly and Jet fans. Those places are very violent and dangerous. They had to install a jail in Philly's stadium.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      The idea that the guards can do nothing because of free speech laws is nonsense. A ticket is a license to attend the game, and can be revoked for any number of reasons.
                      Absolutely right. Heck, the Seattle Mariners banned "Yankees Suck" t-shirts at Safeco Field a few years ago, and that's much less egregious than the Jets' fans we're talking about here. It's supposed to be a family atmosphere (at least to an extent) at an NFL game and I agree with Carolina_Packer.
                      Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                      Vince Lombardi

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                      • #12
                        Of course, we've seen...unusual behavior from people in Jets green for some time now:
                        Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                        Vince Lombardi

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                        • #13
                          Jets fans are pieces of garbage. It amazing that there are two fan bases in the same area who share the same stadium, yet one is so cool (Giants) and the other comprised mostly of the scum of the earth (Jets).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Carolina_Packer
                            Sad and disturbing. If you were taking your kid to a game, how would you explain that? Why should you have to? Makes those male fans seem like a bunch of misgoynistic creeps.


                            Well dipshits like Denisse Rivera aren't helping the situation. It's not just the guys.

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                            • #15
                              I had to email Mike&Mike for this one, since Greenberg is such a huge Jets fan. Yep, when you get a bunch of drunken guys with mob mentality and then some idiot girl obliges them, it definitely doesn't help matters, and then she buys into the "Girls Gone Wild" mentality and says, "I like my body and don't mind showing it off" Um, yeah! Well, heck Denise, not much good football watchin' at JetGiant Stadium, why don't we just put a stage and a pole on the 50 yard line and you can be the half-time entertainment? Would you prefer "Girls, Girls, Girls" by the Crue or do you wanna little country sass with Shania Twain's "Feel Like a Woman"?

                              Pathetic on her part, on the Jet's fans part and the club that is supposed to provide a safe environment for all fans to watch a game.
                              "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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