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  • Justin Harrell-good bad indifferent?

    How was his play? I'm not expecting big plays but did he at least hold his own?

    Just curious from those who watched him or who will analyze the tape a little more.

  • #2
    He played less than I thought he would. No glaring mistakes but no huge plays either.

    He needs to play to get some game experience as well as get in game shape.
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    • #3
      I thought he played decent. He kept square and didn't get shoved around any easier than Corey Williams.

      That said, he doesn't seem to have the pass rush of Corey Williams and he's just as average in the run game as Williams.

      With the the little I saw, I'd say he deserves a C- or D+. I'd say he's comparable to Colin Cole right now.


      He's a rookie though and I think he would be the #3 or 4 DT on most NFL teams. He doesn't look out of his league, but he has a ways to go before we can say we're happy to spend the #16 on him. Look at the jump Jolly made though. From not seeing the field to legit starter in one year. We have to hope Harrell comes back next year stronger, better conditioned and more experienced in his technique. There is an obvious high cieling based on how he bitch slapped college OG's and OC's, but he's got to make a big step to do that in the NFL.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #4
        He was OK.

        Stop worrying about Harrell. He isn't going to prove anything this year. We have to wait until camp next year to see if he's going to be worth the draft pick.
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        • #5
          I think he's made really nice progress since his first preseason game. He has a ways to go though. With Harrell, I think it's pretty clear that "nobody knows". I think the soonest we'll be able to judge him is after 4 preseason games next year. If he starts shoving NFL lineman around like he shoved double teams around in college, we'll be extatic and know we have something. If he stays the same, it's time to call him a bad pick. Right now he's doing what rookies do. He's playinig average to below average football; nothing special, but nothing to panic about either.


          EDIT: great minds, leaper
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #6
            Honesly I didn't even notice him out there. He played less than I expected. I thought Pickett and Williams were on the field a TON.
            Go PACK

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            • #7
              Like Bossman, I thought Harrell was a non-factor in the Packers' defense.

              I remain very unimpressed by him.

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              • #8
                Have any of our DL developed in less than two or three years?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by packrat
                  Have any of our DL developed in less than two or three years?
                  Good point. KGB was on the practice squad the first year. Kampman did very little. Williams did nothing. Jenkins and Cole bounced around the league. Jolly, Hunter, and Montgomery barely played. Maybe Pickett, but that was on another team.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                    Originally posted by packrat
                    Have any of our DL developed in less than two or three years?
                    Good point. KGB was on the practice squad the first year. Kampman did very little. Williams did nothing. Jenkins and Cole bounced around the league. Jolly, Hunter, and Montgomery barely played. Maybe Pickett, but that was on another team.

                    Pickett was the only first round draft pick and played decent right off the bat
                    He was inconsistent though; but positively contributed

                    KGB, Kampman, Jolly and Montgomery all late round picks
                    Williams a 4th if I recall correctly
                    Cole and Jenkins and Hunter undrated projects

                    Am I saying 1st round picks should be good enough to contribute early ?
                    Hell Yes
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      Yeah, it's strange how some guys develop faster than others. Talent evaluation is certainly not exact. Look at the Colts. They lose Anthony McFarland and are forced to play an undrafted rookie FA, Ed Johnson from Penn State, and he's doing great. Not saying Harrell won't develop, it just might not be this year.
                      "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bretsky
                        Am I saying 1st round picks should be good enough to contribute early ?
                        Hell Yes


                        Steve Young stunk as a rook. So did lots of players in the HOF.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          Am I saying 1st round picks should be good enough to contribute early ?
                          Hell Yes


                          Steve Young stunk as a rook. So did lots of players in the HOF.
                          Jamal Reynolds did too
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bretsky
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                            Originally posted by packrat
                            Have any of our DL developed in less than two or three years?
                            Good point. KGB was on the practice squad the first year. Kampman did very little. Williams did nothing. Jenkins and Cole bounced around the league. Jolly, Hunter, and Montgomery barely played. Maybe Pickett, but that was on another team.

                            Pickett was the only first round draft pick and played decent right off the bat
                            He was inconsistent though; but positively contributed

                            KGB, Kampman, Jolly and Montgomery all late round picks
                            Williams a 4th if I recall correctly
                            Cole and Jenkins and Hunter undrated projects

                            Am I saying 1st round picks should be good enough to contribute early ?
                            Hell Yes
                            Should first round picks be good enough? Depends on the position.

                            Historically, linemen and receivers don't.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Originally posted by packrat
                              Have any of our DL developed in less than two or three years?
                              Good point. KGB was on the practice squad the first year. Kampman did very little. Williams did nothing. Jenkins and Cole bounced around the league. Jolly, Hunter, and Montgomery barely played. Maybe Pickett, but that was on another team.

                              Pickett was the only first round draft pick and played decent right off the bat
                              He was inconsistent though; but positively contributed

                              KGB, Kampman, Jolly and Montgomery all late round picks
                              Williams a 4th if I recall correctly
                              Cole and Jenkins and Hunter undrated projects

                              Am I saying 1st round picks should be good enough to contribute early ?
                              Hell Yes
                              How many of those guys tore their bicep and couldn't practice since September of the year prior? I suspsect none of us watched closely enough to determine how well Harrell played. Considering Dallas didn't run the ball that well, maybe he did his job when he was in there. Maybe not.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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