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  • If we play Dallas again...

    How would you scheme on defense...

    I THINK our offense will be fine if they stick to the short passing game (like Aaron was doing in the second half)...

    But how about defense...

    Do the packers just play strictly man with woodson back???

    In my opinion this defense is to vanilla they need to disguise more often to confuse quarterbacks...

    So, how would you scheme against Dallas next time (On D)...

  • #2
    Blitz. Play man not zone.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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    • #3
      We need to start getting #38 to learn how to bring a corner blitz. That kid is fast, and could make an impact as a blitzer.
      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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      • #4
        Everybody has to be healthy.

        Woodson on Owens. Harris solo on Crayton, bump-and-run. Safeties cognizant of Owens and Witten deep. Make them earn their TDs--which means playing from deep to short (e.g. don't give up the long ball).

        Occasionally blitz, but it's still going to be up to the DL to get pressure. They have to play better. Having KGB and Jolly back should help.

        Dallas is going to score points. Just like our offense is going to score points against most teams. We have to make them earn it, get some pressure on Romo (especially early), and don't give up the easy deep ball.

        Play smarter. As questionable as the call on Williams was, he didn't even need to be that close. The ball was overthrown. No facemasks to extend drives and things of that nature.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #5
          Harv I like that scheme...

          Harris on crayton would be a huge mismatch, crayton wouldn't be able to move...

          Woods is fast and can stay with T.O. and have a safety watch over the top so no deep ball could get by...

          Is there a way I can get you into shotty's job???

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Everybody has to be healthy.

            Woodson on Owens. Harris solo on Crayton, bump-and-run. Safeties cognizant of Owens and Witten deep. Make them earn their TDs--which means playing from deep to short (e.g. don't give up the long ball).
            I prefer putting Bush on Owens.

            You say...HUH???

            I prefer a constant double team of Owens. You utilize Bush at the LOS. You give him safety help over the top, and tell him to not worry about anything past 10 yards. Tell him to pound Owens right between the numbers on his chest on every snap and disrupt timing. Bush is basically a liability in coverage...but if you make it this specific, he should be able to get it right. Even if he does get beat within 10 yards, it can't kill us.

            Woodson prefers the slot...and would go against a slot receiver or Witten.

            Harris should be able to handle Crayton. He should never again be placed on Owens. Owens owns Al Harris.

            Collins and Rouse will be the safeties...and whoever is on the side of the field with Owens is the over the top coverage on him.

            The defensive front will need to come up with more complex blitz packages and stunts.

            I think that is how we best handle the Cowboy offense.
            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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            • #7
              Harris needs to be true to his rep is all. He was two steps slower than >TO and that had TO running wild.

              And what is this handover responsibilty shit against TO?

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              • #8
                ...we LOSE
                They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                  ...we LOSE
                  The Bottom Line:
                  Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Numb
                    Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                    ...we LOSE
                    I dislike t.o. and dallas more than the dentist but am a reaiist; we're not on their level YET! xperience, etc..look at the way things have transpired with both organizations and it makes sense imho. mike sherman set us back but next year we will rival pats and other afc foes...

                    mcfadden rocks
                    They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                    Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                      ...we LOSE


                      I watched that game, and I'm not ready to concede anything to the Boys. They have alot of my respect, but I like our chances in a rematch situation with a healthy squad and a mulligan on the gameplan.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                        Originally posted by Numb
                        Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                        ...we LOSE
                        I dislike t.o. and dallas more than the dentist but am a reaiist; we're not on their level YET! xperience, etc..look at the way things have transpired with both organizations and it makes sense imho. mike sherman set us back but next year we will rival pats and other afc foes...

                        mcfadden rocks
                        I don't know mobb. I agree, that we are not were Dallas is yet. They have a more veteran team. They've spent alot of money on FA's like TO, Davis, Columbo, and Hamlin. They should be the better team at this point. That said, we were beat up and at the tail end of a grueling schedule. We made some stupid mistakes and didn't seem to be ready for that game yet we still made a game of it. If we can get healthy, I think we'll be better prepared for the next matchup.

                        The biggest key in my opinion is being ready for their blitzes. If we handle their blitzes better by keeping guys in to pick them up or making the hot reads, our offense should move he ball effectively and put points on the board. If our defense hadn't been on the field so much in the second half, I think they would have fared much better. We do need to apply more pressure, but getting KGB and Woodson back will do a lot to shore up that side of the ball without changing the game plan.
                        Fred's Slacks is a Winner!

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                        • #13
                          I like the Packers chances. I think the mid and short range passes were there to be taken but we didn't take them until Favre went out. I think the run game could have been effective, but we ignored it for most of the 1st half except that big run.

                          I think our ST's are a lot better than they played. I can't explain what happened, but they just laid an egg (similar to the Chicago game).

                          As far as defense goes, I think KGB is a real difference maker in the pass game. He is sitll one of the top 5 edge rushers in the game. I gaurantee Romo wouldn't have been able to just sit back and complete long passes on 3rd and long.

                          Woodson's probowl play speaks for itself

                          Jolly, like KGB is a difference maker but Jolly makes a difference in the run game. When it's 3rd and 1, I acctually watch the play thinking we are going to stop it. Jolly and PIckett are that stout and our LB's (and bigby) have done a great job preventing any bounce outs.


                          Summary: KGB helps get us off the field on 3rd and long. Jolly helps us get to 3rd and long and if it's 3rd and short he gives us a great chance to stop that too.

                          Woodson is just a playmaker and a consistant part of our secondary. Tramon Williams and Jarred Bush just didn't cut it but if everyone is healthy, Woodson won't be covering for a minute on each play so the task will not be nearly as impossible as it was for Harris and company on thursday.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                            Tramon Williams and Jarred Bush just didn't cut it............


                            I did't think Tramon played that badly. But I missed part of the game.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              I like the Packers chances. I think the mid and short range passes were there to be taken but we didn't take them until Favre went out. I think the run game could have been effective, but we ignored it for most of the 1st half except that big run.

                              I think our ST's are a lot better than they played. I can't explain what happened, but they just laid an egg (similar to the Chicago game).

                              As far as defense goes, I think KGB is a real difference maker in the pass game. He is sitll one of the top 5 edge rushers in the game. I gaurantee Romo wouldn't have been able to just sit back and complete long passes on 3rd and long.

                              Woodson's probowl play speaks for itself

                              Jolly, like KGB is a difference maker but Jolly makes a difference in the run game. When it's 3rd and 1, I acctually watch the play thinking we are going to stop it. Jolly and PIckett are that stout and our LB's (and bigby) have done a great job preventing any bounce outs.


                              Summary: KGB helps get us off the field on 3rd and long. Jolly helps us get to 3rd and long and if it's 3rd and short he gives us a great chance to stop that too.

                              Woodson is just a playmaker and a consistant part of our secondary. Tramon Williams and Jarred Bush just didn't cut it but if everyone is healthy, Woodson won't be covering for a minute on each play so the task will not be nearly as impossible as it was for Harris and company on thursday.
                              I keep forgetting about Jolly. It's easy to overlook how much he contributes. Not only the things you said, but he keeps Williams fresh by taking some of the reps.
                              Fred's Slacks is a Winner!

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