Colledge/Bush to stay on bench?

[packers11]

Colledge to stay on bench?

Junius Coston and Jason Spitz would start at guard if the Packers played today, coach Mike McCarthy said, but Daryn Colledge has at least some chance to regain his starting spot.

McCarthy went out of his way to praise Colledge at length a day after the second-year pro was pulled from the Packers' 37-27 loss at Dallas. But McCarthy indicated Spitz and Coston, who finished Thursday's game, are atop the depth chart for the time being.

"Daryn and Jason and Junius are really all about pretty equal in their productivity, in their performance," McCarthy said. "We're just trying to ... find the right combination, and we're keeping it as competitive as possible."

It's a similar situation at cornerback, where on Thursday, Tramon Williams replaced Jarrett Bush, who struggled as a fill-starter in place of injured veteran Charles Woodson. McCarthy said Williams was "pretty solid" but indicated he, Williams and Will Blackmon, who returned to action Thursday after missing nearly two months with a foot injury, would continue to compete for time.

"Those guys do everything together, and they're all about at the same point their careers, as far as the level of play," McCarthy said.

-- Tom Pelissero, tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com

[Bretsky]

In order to succeed with five wideouts, we need competent OL play.

Colledge, for those of us, including me, who expected him to seriously get stronger and step up his game this year ....are disappointed

[Partial]

He definitely needs to hit the weight room and start eating up. Not only does he need to get stronger, he needs to fill out and get some weight in the ass so he can anchor.

[PackerTimer]

my frustration with colledge is only compounded by the fact that he had been playing better the last few weeks and then he comes out with this stinker.

[falco]

my frustration with colledge is only compounded by the fact that he had been playing better the last few weeks and then he comes out with this stinker.

that comment describes a lot of players in thursdays game, including favre.

if coston does become a starter though, its another late round success by thompson. seems he has more success there than in the first 2 rounds.

[Tony Oday]

I think its the coaching staff that has failed Colledge. I mean this kid should have been forced to hit the OCB and the weight room all off season. He has the skills just needs to be coached up.

Bush well I mean cmon he is just new. I mean he is in basically the right position most of the time however never in the exact right position and doesnt have the make up speed to get there. I blame talent and coaching on that one.

[wist43]

I think its the coaching staff that has failed Colledge. I mean this kid should have been forced to hit the OCB and the weight room all off season. He has the skills just needs to be coached up.

Bush well I mean cmon he is just new. I mean he is in basically the right position most of the time however never in the exact right position and doesnt have the make up speed to get there. I blame talent and coaching on that one.

Don't know about that one Tony... Colledge is known to be a bit of knob. Apparently he's extremely arrogant, and generally an unlikable guy who can not only be difficult to coach, but can be difficult to be around on a day to day basis.

Guys like that tend to bring it on themselves. Of course, if he starts playing well, his penchant for being a punk will be overlooked... but playing like crap on top of being a petulant brat will definitely land ya on the bench.

[Tony Oday]

I think its the coaching staff that has failed Colledge. I mean this kid should have been forced to hit the OCB and the weight room all off season. He has the skills just needs to be coached up.

Bush well I mean cmon he is just new. I mean he is in basically the right position most of the time however never in the exact right position and doesnt have the make up speed to get there. I blame talent and coaching on that one.

Don't know about that one Tony... Colledge is known to be a bit of knob. Apparently he's extremely arrogant, and generally an unlikable guy who can not only be difficult to coach, but can be difficult to be around on a day to day basis.

Well Wist if thats right I would honestly say cut the shyt out of him not kidding. I hate these punk players that think they know it all I mean Favre is still getting coached up and he is a first balot hall of famer...they may even break the rules and just put him in after this year!

Guys like that tend to bring it on themselves. Of course, if he starts playing well, his penchant for being a punk will be overlooked... but playing like crap on top of being a petulant brat will definitely land ya on the bench.

[Merlin]

I am not as concerned about the guards right now as I am Mark Tauscher. Although he played with injury against Dallas, it didn't really help the team. He got beat a lot and you could tell he wasn't moving like normal. Hopefully he heals a lot before the Raiders game, otherwise we need to sit him and let him get healthy. The sack that took Favre out just isn't something we are used to seeing from either of our tackles.

It was evident early that Tauscher was struggling but we didn't keep anyone in to help him until after Favre went out. That is on McCarthy.

[RashanGary]

Don't know about that one Tony... Colledge is known to be a bit of knob. Apparently he's extremely arrogant, and generally an unlikable guy who can not only be difficult to coach, but can be difficult to be around on a day to day basis.

Guys like that tend to bring it on themselves. Of course, if he starts playing well, his penchant for being a punk will be overlooked... but playing like crap on top of being a petulant brat will definitely land ya on the bench.

I agree with this. Colledge has a bit of an "I'm the smartest guy in the world" edge to his personality. He reminds me a bit of Bryant Gumble with the tone in his voice. Not that it's everything, but football isn't rocket science. Who cares if you are smarter than the guy across from you. Just work your technique and follow directions. You don't want morons. You want guys iwth a good head on their shoulders but Colledge's smarts go beyond what is needed in football and the attitude that he's developed enters into the realm of annoying. Hopefully he becomes a player. If not, the average intellignence meat head will take his job and everyone will be more forgiving because he's not such a know it all asshole.

[MJZiggy]

I thought the sack that took Favre out was on Favre himself for not changing the protections...

but I do agree that if Tausch isn't being effective, then he needs to either come out or have help.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The next game against Dallas will be a whole new kettle of fish.

Maybe moving Colledge to right tackle would have been an improvement over gimpy Tauscher.

i don't think fretting over the Dallas game makes sense. the stars were not aligned. they will field a very different team in Dallas next time, and I seriously doubt you will see Favre throwing deep into double coverage the next time.

[Bretsky]

Don't know about that one Tony... Colledge is known to be a bit of knob. Apparently he's extremely arrogant, and generally an unlikable guy who can not only be difficult to coach, but can be difficult to be around on a day to day basis.

Guys like that tend to bring it on themselves. Of course, if he starts playing well, his penchant for being a punk will be overlooked... but playing like crap on top of being a petulant brat will definitely land ya on the bench.

I agree with this. Colledge has a bit of an "I'm the smartest guy in the world" edge to his personality. He reminds me a bit of Bryant Gumble with the tone in his voice. Not that it's everything, but football isn't rocket science. Who cares if you are smarter than the guy across from you. Just work your technique and follow directions. You don't want morons. You want guys iwth a good head on their shoulders but Colledge's smarts go beyond what is needed in football and the attitude that he's developed enters into the realm of annoying. Hopefully he becomes a player. If not, the average intellignence meat head will take his job and everyone will be more forgiving because he's not such a know it all asshole.

I didn't want to bring this up because I've been called out with the "How do you know for sure" card before, but I've heard this as well through the media.

I listened to his interview after the Bears beat the Pack this year. Gave the Bears no credit at all and I would say complete arrogance would have fit my perception as well.

[Bretsky]

The next game against Dallas will be a whole new kettle of fish.

Maybe moving Colledge to right tackle would have been an improvement over gimpy Tauscher.

i don't think fretting over the Dallas game makes sense. the stars were not aligned. they will field a very different team in Dallas next time, and I seriously doubt you will see Favre throwing deep into double coverage the next time.

How in the world do we really know if Colledge will be better or worse as a tackle ? Because he's a little quick ? Because he's weak ? He's been preparing to play guard since he's been here. I have no clue if he'll be one bit better as a tackle. We certainly didn't draft him to play there because we're OK at that position.

[MJZiggy]

Don't know about that one Tony... Colledge is known to be a bit of knob. Apparently he's extremely arrogant, and generally an unlikable guy who can not only be difficult to coach, but can be difficult to be around on a day to day basis.

Guys like that tend to bring it on themselves. Of course, if he starts playing well, his penchant for being a punk will be overlooked... but playing like crap on top of being a petulant brat will definitely land ya on the bench.

I agree with this. Colledge has a bit of an "I'm the smartest guy in the world" edge to his personality. He reminds me a bit of Bryant Gumble with the tone in his voice. Not that it's everything, but football isn't rocket science. Who cares if you are smarter than the guy across from you. Just work your technique and follow directions. You don't want morons. You want guys iwth a good head on their shoulders but Colledge's smarts go beyond what is needed in football and the attitude that he's developed enters into the realm of annoying. Hopefully he becomes a player. If not, the average intellignence meat head will take his job and everyone will be more forgiving because he's not such a know it all asshole.

I didn't want to bring this up because I've been called out with the "How do you know for sure" card before, but I've heard this as well through the media.

I listened to his interview after the Bears beat the Pack this year. Gave the Bears no credit at all and I would say complete arrogance would have fit my perception as well.

Nah, I've seen interviews with him and came away with the same impression. Thought getting benched once or twice might have improved his attitude, but possibly not.