107.5 tHE fAN REPORTED TODAY THAT THE LEAGUE SENT WORD to the Packers that the call was wrong
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Calls like the Bubba TD pushout I guess you can understand but this shit was super obvious. The ref made the right call and some asswad overrules it. Even owens knew it was a turnover because he tried to tackle Al.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersEvery team gets these. There have been bad calls. Some games we get the short end of the stick, but overall I don't think it's been worse than any other team. All fans cry that their teams have been screwed by the refs.
I thought someone mentioned that the idiot that called this play also called the Tramon PI at the end of the game?
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Every call should be allowed for review, with the exception of penalties. If you allow challenges on penalties you are going to slow down the pace of the game and you will almost always lose. You can't challenge pass interference or holding, simply because it's a judgment call and seeing a ref review it isn't going to change anything.
One could argue that things such as late hits and roughing penalties should be reviewable but where do you draw the line. If you allow one penalty to be reviewed you have to allow every other one to be review, too."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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You draw the line that any penalty that costs a team more than 15 yards is reviewable. Calling PI and handing a team a 40-yard gain with goal to go and no way to review it is a little nuts....and how often a game does it happen? Maybe once? Twice? Any call that could affect possession should be able to be looked at as well. They're game changing calls made in an instant and refs should have the ability to take a second look at them and coaches to challenge when they think it's wrong.Originally posted by BallHawkEvery call should be allowed for review, with the exception of penalties. If you allow challenges on penalties you are going to slow down the pace of the game and you will almost always lose. You can't challenge pass interference or holding, simply because it's a judgment call and seeing a ref review it isn't going to change anything.
One could argue that things such as late hits and roughing penalties should be reviewable but where do you draw the line. If you allow one penalty to be reviewed you have to allow every other one to be review, too."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I think any play that potentially decides a change of possession or any play in the end zone that could decide a td or possession should be reviewable. Those two things rise to the level of being reviewed. Penalties or no calls should not be challengeable."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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I think any PI call, unless blatent, should be a max penalty of 15 yards. To give a guy 40 yards for a little shove is pathetic and ruins the integrity of the game. However, you simply can't review PI. It's a judgment call, the most ultimate of all judgment call. You can review a play and see a runner was down. You can review a play and see the receiver had possession. That's easy. But you can't look at a replay and easily say "Oh, yeah, he pulled on his shoulder, but it didn't affect the WR ability to catch the ball."Originally posted by MJZiggyYou draw the line that any penalty that costs a team more than 15 yards is reviewable. Calling PI and handing a team a 40-yard gain with goal to go and no way to review it is a little nuts....and how often a game does it happen? Maybe once? Twice? Any call that could affect possession should be able to be looked at as well. They're game changing calls made in an instant and refs should have the ability to take a second look at them and coaches to challenge when they think it's wrong.
If anything can be done to fix some of the BS Pass Interference calls it would be to give the referee closest to the play authority over every other referee, including the Head Referee. Twice the referee closest to the play ruled in favor of the Packer's defense (Harris' strip of Owens and PI on Austin) But then a referee with a worse view than the other ref came over and ruled the play in favor of the Cowboys. I'm sorry, but that defies all logic. If you see somebody commit a robbery do you ask the clerk for the description of the criminal or do you ask the guy hiding in the back of the store? Give the Head Ref authority on certain calls, but don't give a guy who doesn't have the best view the authority over the guy standing right in front of the play."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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What sickens me is that the official under the hood, even though he technically was suppose to only be reviewing if TO had possession or not, would not have been scrutinized if he just simply ruled "no" to that, because he had possession without making a "football move" which under the rules constitutes two steps after reception. So, he came out of the hood knowing that it was clearly an interception and should've just said he never established control before the ball was taken away, and would've been applauded by most media for at least having the call go to the right team. Instead, he helps the home team and an asshole receiver. I don't get it. I swear this game seemed fixed for the Boys from the kickoff on. We would have won this game but not for the zebras screwing us.
But, I'm telling you, watch how this playoff picture develops. It's so screwy, there is a good chance if we get second seed, we will play against a team better matched for us to win against, cuz a this point, the wildcard teams are better than the division leaders, so we should be in great shape. And if both the South and West divisionwinners win their first round games , it nullifies Dallas' home field advantage in our first game, because both of those teams will be beaten by the Boys and us. We lost nothing in that game, and probably should've used our second stringers for the whole game so Dallas doesn't have good film to view before the NFC Championship game. But, MM would've been blasted for that if we lost the game. At least we didn't show them our true gameplanning, thanks to our offense not running as we usually do. We just need to take care of business these last few weeks, get the bye, and I will consider us the team to beat in the NFC at that point. Two wins,baby, and my Rat name will be officially prophetic. The better teams in the NFC are on the out looking in, the Bears, Skins, and Eagles. Things are falling like perfectlu placed dominoes, we just need to get healthy and win a couple, and we will be sitting perfectly in place to get to Favre's third SB. We have NO pressure now, and Dallas will expend a lot ot mental pressure the rest of the season trying to hold the top spot, which may wear them out emotionally 'til the playoffs begin, and we will be under the radar, just where we need to be. This, IMO, was the perfect loss, especially because we made a game out of it without the best player in the NFL. Brett watching AR scoring against their defense should mentally help him play well against them if we play them again, because instead of him looking at the past failures, he's gonna realize that with him being better than Aaron, he should have his way against them, and that might take the jitters from him, and he should play spectacular. With his competitive nature, watch, if he's healthy, he will throw at least three TD's against his next opponents. Losing a game like this seems to always spark that inner something in a team so they play outstanding focuse football, the Boys will play overconfident the rest of the way, and if we face them again with Jolly, KGB, Rouse, Underwood, and Chuck, they will not be prepared for how good our defense really is when healthy. BUT, WE MUST get healthy before playoffs, and they should make Woodson sit out at least two or more weeks, so he if one hundred percent fresh and healthy. We can clinch a bye without them, and it's in oujr best interest. If MM plays Chuck Sunday, I will lose respect for him, unless Chuck is fully recovered, which is impossible. Plus, we could start Tramone for a couple of games, and let his unbelievable talent show itself on the field, giving us depth in the secondary, which is a necessity going into the playoffs. We need him to be that third corner we can rely on when we play against good teams in the plaoffs. He is the x factor along with the rest of the "d" getting healthy before the playoffs. Giving them rest for a couple to few weeks will only help us. BTW, STOP using Chuck as a return man, use Robinson, Chuch is WAY to valuable to risk injury on a return, and it's not like he is Hester. So, play him on defense only, and we will be better all around.
Another point, the flea flicker and onside kick were excellent moves for MM to pull out, if for no other reason, making playoff teams scheme and spend time trying to come up with defenses to stop those plays. But, him going to those plays showed me that MM was less interested in winning this game, and more interested in showing them little to view tape against us for the playoffs. It really did seem like he played very differently in all aspects of the game, so as not to show them what we can and will do if we meet them again. If so, it is a brillian idea. On the other side of it, we saw everything the Boys can and will do against us, which bodes well for the playoffs. We won this game in a mental frame than the Boys, and I am sure, if we meet again, we will have a huge schematic advantage over them."...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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BTW, whomever changed my pic to that cool pic of Favre, thank you, I didn't know how, so I appreciate you doing that for me.
"...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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Instead of admitting they were wrong NOW, how about getting the call correct during the game??? They reviewed it..There is just no way that should not have been overturned. It was right there in plain sight, Harris stripped the ball from Owens and controlled it with both feet in bounds. And the ref didn't even explain why he didn't overturn it. What a douchebag...
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Here's a news flash to folks -- at the end of the day, it's a friggin' game played and officiated by friggin' humans. Bad calls are going to happen. So are bad throws in to double coverage. You deal with it.
I think the NFL has it about right with their replay procedures. Part of life is dealing with the fact that things aren't always fair. STFU, button your chinstrap, and get after it. The Pack didn't lose because of some bad calls.
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Two issues:
You cant slow down the game by reviewing EVERYTHING. It would be horrendous to watch a game and the NFL would lose fans/viewers in droves.
The most popular league in the country should have full-time officials. These guys wont be professionals until the league MAKES THEM professionals.
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But there’s a limit on the number of challenges a team can use anyway, so why not let them review the play that‘s questionable? I don't think it will slow down the game because coaches have gotten better at challenges and usually only challenge a play unless after having their guys look at it once.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyThese reviews are a hornets nest. The games are slowed down painfully by reviews already. You can't say "review everything". Maybe some of the rules need to be tweeked here and there, but I think they are close to an optimal balance.Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
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Personally; I enjoyed football much more WITHOUT instant replay. The officials made the calls and you simply accepted it and went on. No one is perfect in their execution of the game, not the coaches, or the players, or the officials. I am willing to accept that, in all sports.
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