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[Rivers Rutherford]

I am beginning to hate instant replay. It takes way too long in the NFL, when it was first brought back I thought that it was supposed to have a time limit.

No ref is going to want to go under the both and review one of his colleagues in terms of penalties. This will never happen, since I believe refs can't stand replay to begin with.

Most of you fail to realize the play couldn't be reviewed because of the early whistle. It could have been a fumble recovery or an INT, but the bottom line was referee that was in front of the play blew his whistle before Owens went out of bounds, the official that was in back of the play ruled it was a turnover.

Pass interference is a crap call in the NFL due to the way they penalize it.

[MadtownPacker]

The Pack didn't lose because of some bad calls.

Sorry man but this call was HUGE on a Donald Trump scale. The score was 3-0 and if the Packers get that ball on there is a great chance they score and go up 10-0. Would that have effected Favre's decision to go deep? Would it have helped out the D? Would it have helped MCCarthy's playcalling?

I say it would have affected all these things. It was that critical of a play. It was that obvious. The first ref called it right and another one overruled him.

[The Leaper]

Every call should be allowed for review, with the exception of penalties.

I would generally agree. I don't think penalties should be reveiwed. However, any potential turnover or touchdown should be able to be reviewed, regardless of forward progress, down by contact, push-outs, etc.

I also don't think pass interference should be a spot foul EXCEPT in the final 2 minutes of the half, so teams don't tackle a receiver late to prevent a team from getting into scoring position.

[Guiness]

I think any play that potentially decides a change of possession or any play in the end zone that could decide a td or possession should be reviewable. Those two things rise to the level of being reviewed. Penalties or no calls should not be challengeable.

I really don't see why just about everything should be reviewable. Just keep the two review rule - and let the coach decide what is important enough. That shouldn't slow things down much.

The only question in my mind is if the call is overturned on review, should that count as a challenge, or should the coach get it back because he was right?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Here's a news flash to folks -- at the end of the day, it's a friggin' game played and officiated by friggin' humans. Bad calls are going to happen. So are bad throws in to double coverage. You deal with it.

I think the NFL has it about right with their replay procedures. Part of life is dealing with the fact that things aren't always fair. STFU, button your chinstrap, and get after it. The Pack didn't lose because of some bad calls.

Amen. This one call did not lose the game for us. Sure, one can speculate that the course of the game would have been changed. But it's just that, speculation and it has no basis in fact, regardless of how you want to spin it.

Our pass defense was pathetic that game as was our pass protection and pass rush. That's what lost that game, not 1 call by an official.

[Green Bud Packer]

It would be great if the game was always left to the players and game after game it is but when it isn't it just does not seem fair.

If the N.F.L competition commitee wants to tweak replay I'd like to see teams given one more challenge per game and no more unreviewable plays because of it being a judgement call such as Franks' T.D. or an inadvertant whistle such as Harris' pick.

I just hope it never gets to where thet are reviewing every placement of the ball.

[The Leaper]

I think any PI call, unless blatent, should be a max penalty of 15 yards. To give a guy 40 yards for a little shove is pathetic and ruins the integrity of the game.

I agree, although you have to think about the end of the half where a team is attacking downfield to get in scoring position. You wouldn't want the defense to be able to take a penalty on purpose that prevents the offense from having a chance to get into scoring position. That would also ruin the integrity of the game.

I think PI should be a spot foul after the 2:00 warning of the half. Otherwise, 15 yards and a first down is plenty.

[The Leaper]

Here's a news flash to folks -- at the end of the day, it's a friggin' game played and officiated by friggin' humans. Bad calls are going to happen. So are bad throws in to double coverage. You deal with it.

That is logical.

However, there also is a system in place that is supposed to let teams have a couple chances to challenge judgments they feel are unfair or questionable. If that is the case, then selectively choosing what you can and can't challenge seems ridiculous to me. You should be able to challenge any situation that you think unfairly went against you...and a situation like the Harris-Owens one could be reviewed and overturned. No one is saying we would've won the game if the call went our way, or that we lost the game because of that call.

I understand the necessity of blowing whistles to stop a play to prevent injury. In the Harris-Owens situation, there is no doubt the ref did so to prevent another player from coming in and taking a free shot at the situation since the play was clearly heading OOB anyway. However, the refs do not know when a potential game/momentum changing play may occur...or could be blocked from the view of a play like that altogether...and blowing a whistle a split second before one occurs should not impede the ability of a team to challenge the call and get it changed to be the right call.

[Zool]

The Pack didn't lose because of some bad calls.

Sorry man but this call was HUGE on a Donald Trump scale. The score was 3-0 and if the Packers get that ball on there is a great chance they score and go up 10-0. Would that have effected Favre's decision to go deep? Would it have helped out the D? Would it have helped MCCarthy's playcalling?

I say it would have affected all these things. It was that critical of a play. It was that obvious. The first ref called it right and another one overruled him.

What if there was a fumble on the next play and the Cowpies returned it for a TD. You can what-if situations like this to death.

[The Leaper]

What if there was a fumble on the next play and the Cowpies returned it for a TD. You can what-if situations like this to death.

How does that change the fact it was the wrong call, as the NFL admits, but was impossible to correct because of current rules?

Again, I do not see anyone suggesting that the call cost us the game. People are saying that instant replay doesn't seem to be accomplishing the purpose for its existence.

Your hypothetical has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand.

[Zool]

What if there was a fumble on the next play and the Cowpies returned it for a TD. You can what-if situations like this to death.

How does that change the fact it was the wrong call, as the NFL admits, but was impossible to correct because of current rules?

Again, I do not see anyone suggesting that the call cost us the game. People are saying that instant replay doesn't seem to be accomplishing the purpose for its existence.

Your hypothetical has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand.

Actually Mad was very close to saying just that. I guess Mad gets a pass on his hypothetical cause he's a minority?

[MJZiggy]

No, as far as I recall hypotheticals are among the types of speech allowed around here...but I think it's perfectly understandable in this situation since the call was wrong and the league admitted as much, to wonder how the blown call might have affected things. Yes it's water under the bridge (or dam if you are Aaron Kampman) but it's natural to think about what could have been if they had gotten the call right. Especially if they ended up scoring on that drive.

[MadtownPacker]

What if there was a fumble on the next play and the Cowpies returned it for a TD. You can what-if situations like this to death.

How does that change the fact it was the wrong call, as the NFL admits, but was impossible to correct because of current rules?

Again, I do not see anyone suggesting that the call cost us the game. People are saying that instant replay doesn't seem to be accomplishing the purpose for its existence.

Your hypothetical has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand.

Actually Mad was very close to saying just that. I guess Mad gets a pass on his hypothetical cause he's a minority?

Maybe Im the minority where you live but Im by far the majority where I live.

But let me continue the bitch slap started by Leaper..

Your what-if is BS because it NEVER HAPPENED. The takeaway by Harris DID HAPPEN. It was stolen by the bullshit ref and therefore COULD have had a significant affect on the game.

IT happened, Pack got robbed, you can't deny that or else you can put on you owens or romo jersey. Either way you are speaking like a detractor.

[BF4MVP]

BTW, whomever changed my pic to that cool pic of Favre, thank you, I didn't know how, so I appreciate you doing that for me.

Looks good. Both yours and BF4MVP's!!

Thanks, I appreciate it!

I love this avatar.

[BF4MVP]

PS I see what some of you guys are saying..I can live with a bad call..

What I can't live with is him looking at it for 2 minutes IN SLOW MOTION and STILL making the wrong call..And then to top it off, he didn't even explain why he didn't overturn it..All he said was "The play stands as called."