We are sorry

[wpony]

I agree with madtown on this one totally I think it was the undoing of Brett also look at Bretts first drive looked ok then this BS call happened and Brett seen the writing on the walls that it was going to be another game the referees were going to try and give to the Dallas and he paniced

[Zool]

What if there was a fumble on the next play and the Cowpies returned it for a TD. You can what-if situations like this to death.

How does that change the fact it was the wrong call, as the NFL admits, but was impossible to correct because of current rules?

Again, I do not see anyone suggesting that the call cost us the game. People are saying that instant replay doesn't seem to be accomplishing the purpose for its existence.

Your hypothetical has no bearing whatsoever on the discussion at hand.

Actually Mad was very close to saying just that. I guess Mad gets a pass on his hypothetical cause he's a minority?

Maybe Im the minority where you live but Im by far the majority where I live.

But let me continue the bitch slap started by Leaper..

Your what-if is BS because it NEVER HAPPENED. The takeaway by Harris DID HAPPEN. It was stolen by the bullshit ref and therefore COULD have had a significant affect on the game.

IT happened, Pack got robbed, you can't deny that or else you can put on you owens or romo jersey. Either way you are speaking like a detractor.

I'll detract you mexi-cali.

You guys all get your panties in a bunch too easy the week after a loss. All I was trying to say is, like Zig said, water under the Kampman dam. Thursday games are BS. We pick everything apart way more on extended times off.

[Bossman641]

PS I see what some of you guys are saying..I can live with a bad call..

What I can't live with is him looking at it for 2 minutes IN SLOW MOTION and STILL making the wrong call..And then to top it off, he didn't even explain why he didn't overturn it..All he said was "The play stands as called."

He couldn't overturn it. All MM could challenge was whether it was a catch or not. It was obviously a catch, it was also obviously a strip/INT but once the whistle is blown everything after that doesn't count.

TO caught the ball. He's gettin pushed toward the sideline. Whistle blows. Harris has the ball.

Everything from the whistle on doesn't matter. I'm sure the ref saw it and knew it should have been Packers' ball right there but according to the rule he couldn't make that call since the whistle had been blown.

The NFL said a couple years ago they were going to try and let plays play out longer before blowing the whistle to stop this kind of stuff (player being ruled down and whistle blown so that a fumble is not challengeable). I'm not so sure they've been doing it.

[The Leaper]

TO caught the ball. He's gettin pushed toward the sideline. Whistle blows. Harris has the ball.

Everything from the whistle on doesn't matter. I'm sure the ref saw it and knew it should have been Packers' ball right there but according to the rule he couldn't make that call since the whistle had been blown.

That is the problem though. The ref who blew the whistle did not have an adequate view of what was happening. He didn't even know Harris had taken away the ball. How does that ref know he blew the whistle before Harris had the ball if he couldn't see Harris take the ball away?

The whistle rule is dumb. If a whistle is blown before it should be, it should be ignored in a challenge review. That is the entire purpose of a challenge review to me...to determine if the ref made an error.

If you can't review certain aspects of the game based on a ref's decision that was made in error, why even bother with instant replay at all? Just get rid of the whole damned thing and speed up the game.

[Jimx29]

BTW, whomever changed my pic to that cool pic of Favre, thank you, I didn't know how, so I appreciate you doing that for me.

I snagged and cropped it, but it would take an admin/mod person to change it in your profile

[Bossman641]

TO caught the ball. He's gettin pushed toward the sideline. Whistle blows. Harris has the ball.

Everything from the whistle on doesn't matter. I'm sure the ref saw it and knew it should have been Packers' ball right there but according to the rule he couldn't make that call since the whistle had been blown.

That is the problem though. The ref who blew the whistle did not have an adequate view of what was happening. He didn't even know Harris had taken away the ball. How does that ref know he blew the whistle before Harris had the ball if he couldn't see Harris take the ball away?

The whistle rule is dumb. If a whistle is blown before it should be, it should be ignored in a challenge review. That is the entire purpose of a challenge review to me...to determine if the ref made an error.

If you can't review certain aspects of the game based on a ref's decision that was made in error, why even bother with instant replay at all? Just get rid of the whole damned thing and speed up the game.

I agree completely, it was stupid that the ref blew the whistle so quick and especially stupid since he couldn't see what was going on. I was just pointing out that, as the rule stands, there was no chance for the Pack to get the ball because it wasn't even reviewable.

You bring up an interesting point though, saying that the whistle should be ignored in a challenge. I feel like this might open up a whole new can of worms. Players are always taught to play to the whistle, what if they play past the whistle. Could lead to some late hits and possibly injury.

Bottom line, the stupid ref shouldn't have blown the play dead from the middle of the field when there's another one 2 feet from the action.

[Badgepack]

I thought the refs were instructed specifically to make sure that a play is dead before a whislte is blown, just in case things like this happen.

[swede]

I thought the refs were instructed specifically to make sure that a play is dead before a whislte is blown, just in case things like this happen.

They were, and they are doing their best.

[mraynrand]

If you can't review certain aspects of the game based on a ref's decision that was made in error, why even bother with instant replay at all? Just get rid of the whole damned thing and speed up the game.

Even better, just get rid of replay. After the play happens, no replay is allowed ever. No highlights, no NFL films. Also, encrypt the game so no one can tape it it on their VCR or store it on their DVR. No photographs either. No announcers can describe the play more than once. Make it illegal for fans to discuss the game. That way no one can ever know if a team got screwed. It would be happy time for all!