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  • #46
    Originally posted by gbgary
    He took us away from our strength. Using play-action gives Favre less time to sit back and observe the field, because he has to waste a couple seconds trying to fake a handoff. And we did this SIX TIMES in the first 20 plays.

    this is NOT my quote!!

    i like the play-action, the shot-gun is fine when protection is included. i want to see ball-control passing the way the west-coast offense was/is designed to be. Brett got embarrassed and hurt by the blitzing with NO protection. the offensive line was simply outnumbered...jail-break!! long passes take too long to develope and with the blitzing and no protection you get ducks thrown and quarterbacks hurt.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by MadtownPacker
      Originally posted by MJZiggy
      I could be mistaken, but I believe he was talking about the Pats and Cowboys...



      Originally posted by :clap:
      Clear visual evidence confirms that MadtownPacker jumped on the ball first. The play stands..
      Cute, but ya ain't no Ed Hochuli...
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #48
        Originally posted by gbgary
        Originally posted by b bulldog
        TO makes up for the differnce to give the boys an edge their imo and I think they rush the passer much better and we won't be able to cover TO.
        i don't think they rush the passer better. our line has more sacks than their line (by ten or more). a third of their sacks are by linebackers and safeties. they HAVE to blitz more because of their weaker secondary. if we hadn't run so many "everybody go long" passes and empty backfield formations we would have been a lot better off. our defense was in a weakened state when we played dallas. owens is a force but with pressure on romo his long passes won't happen. like today romo will be throwing quick to barber and whitten. if m3 was gonna be "even more aggressive" it would have been better had it been on the defensive side of the ball and kept the offense as it had been all season.
        They run a 3-4 defense. It is designed for linebackers to get sacks. I would say way more than a third of there sacks are by lb'ers as D. Ware and G. Ellis are both linebackers.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by pbmax
          We've been using play action all year. Its McCarthy's preferred attack, that's why he wanted the Broncos/Falcons ZBS.
          I never suggested we didn't.

          I doubt we've seen as much play action EARLY in the game as we saw at Dallas. I'm just talking out of my ass, but I don't recall as many play-action plays in the scripted plays in other games this year.

          My point all along has been that the way to beat Dallas is to stick Favre in the gun where he can see everything unfold in front of him, and give him at least 3 receivers to work with...although I think 4 is optimal.

          My problem with the play-action against Dallas was that it was OBVIOUS that Dallas was not respecting it at all...SO WHY CONTINUE TO TRY TO FOOL THEM WITH PLAY-ACTION?? It makes no sense. Running a play-action play GREATLY reduces the time a QB has to observe the entire field. The QB has to turn his back from the play for a couple seconds to fake a handoff. When Favre made poor decisions on play-action, I think it was DIRECTLY a result of that reduced time to see the field. That is fine if the fake actually works in attracting the interest of a few defenders. If the defense is ignoring the fake, play-action is completely useless to the offense and puts them at a disadvantage.

          My point is that our offensive game plan at the beginning of the Dallas game was flawed. We needed to come out and give Favre numerous passing options AND time to digest the defense and make a decision by putting him in the gun. Tom Brady was put precisely in that position, and TORE DALLAS A NEW ASSHOLE. Instead, we reduced the time Favre had to see what the defense was doing by utilizing play-action...even when it became abundantly clear that Dallas was completely ignoring our run fake. That gave Dallas a huge advantage, and was a big reason why they got a great start in that game.

          If we play Dallas again, our first 15 plays should all be passing plays...out of the shotgun...using quick routes designed to attack an aggressive defense. Dallas can't afford to let Favre sit in the pocket. They will certainly blitz. Running play-action isn't going to affect that one damn bit. Dallas can't stop our passing game...they couldn't do it even when Rodgers was in there, so Favre should be able to absolutely torch them.
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          • #50
            Dallas is best NFC "story" out there. They have Randy Moss and Romo who is playing very good for a "Young" QB. Wisconsin teams never get the love they deserve on ESPN. We ALL KNOW who is the best team out there and they all where the Green And Gold Knuf said...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Chubbyhubby
              Dallas is best NFC "story" out there. They have Randy Moss and Romo who is playing very good for a "Young" QB. Wisconsin teams never get the love they deserve on ESPN. We ALL KNOW who is the best team out there and they all where the Green And Gold Knuf said...
              You talkin about TO.
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Freak Out
                You talkin about TO.
                Nah. Dallas traded 3 number one picks for Randy Moss today. You didn't hear the news?

                Apparently New England figured they would need a few extra #1 picks due to Belichick's cheating tendencies...and Dallas was scared after their narrow win over a beat up Packers team, and thought Moss would ensure them the SB trip.
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