Favres Records

[RashanGary]

Good point Shamler

[Homer Jay]

My contribution to meaningless stats.

Career TD's per attempt:

Tarkenton 1/18.9
Hadl 1/19.2
Blanda 1/16.9
Marino 1/19.9
Favre 1/19.2

Career INT's per attempt

Tarkenton 1/24.3
Hadl 1/17.4
Blanda 1/14.4
Marino 1/33.1
Favre 1/29.8

Just a couple more and then I'm done. In 225 games Favre has averaged 1.76 TD's and 1.13 INT's per game. Dan Marino averaged 1.73 TD's and 1.04 INT's per game in 242 games. If history repeats itself Brett Favre will end this year with 424 TD's and 273 INT's.

[LEWCWA]

Some of those older QB's didn't throw as many passes, but when they threw the ball they threw deeper patterns. The west coast dink and dunk wasn't really in vogue when Blanda and Tarkington were playing.

[Noodle]

Here's what I think is a statistical oddity: Favre has never led the NFL in Quaterback Rating. He led the NFC only once, in 1995 with a 99.5, but that year Harbough led the NFL with a 100.7.

Still, I would have far preferred to have had Favre that year than friggin' Harbough.

This was Favre's line in 1995: 570 359 4,413 38 13 99.5

This was Harbough's line: 314 200 2,575 17 5 100.7

Not even close. Almost 2,000 more yards and 20 more TDs. Man was Favre smokin' good!

Just to compare, here was last year's line: 607 372 3881 20 29 70.9

Elway's in the same boat, having led the AFC twice, but never the NFL.

[chain_gang]

Too bad on the records that Favre will get won't hold up too long if Manning plays as long as he says. But just imagine Favre with wideouts like harrison and wayne for as many years as peyton has had them.



Colts | Manning planning to play eight more years
Fri, 19 May 2006 06:31:06 -0700

Mike Chappell, of the Indianapolis Star, reports Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning intends to play eight more seasons in the NFL that would take him through the 2013 season and a 16-year career. "I've just always picked 16 years for myself,'' Manning said, "so I've just finished the halfway point. I still feel like I'm in a young body. Certainly I've been fortunate healthwise and I've had outstanding protection my entire career. I still feel very healthy.'' To keep Manning healthy Indianapolis Colts quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell didn't allow him to throw until Monday, May 1, and uses a counter in practice to make sure he doesn't throw too much.

[Scott Campbell]

Here's what I think is a statistical oddity: Favre has never led the NFL in Quaterback Rating. He led the NFC only once, in 1995 with a 99.5, but that year Harbough led the NFL with a 100.7.

Still, I would have far preferred to have had Favre that year than friggin' Harbough.

That's one of them there lyin stats.

[Scott Campbell]

Too bad on the records that Favre will get won't hold up too long if Manning plays as long as he says. But just imagine Favre with wideouts like harrison and wayne for as many years as peyton has had them.

Peyton is a tough guy, and his durability record would be incredibly impressive if it wasn't for Brett. I think he's already in second place all time. If he stays healthy, he could own as many records as he likes. But he's probably more concerned right now with getting the monkey off his back and winning the big game.

[Noodle]

Exactly, SC, and reminds me of one of the great lines of all time:

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[Noodle]

Peyton is a tough guy, and his durability record would be incredibly impressive if it wasn't for Brett. I think he's already in second place all time. If he stays healthy, he could own as many records as he likes. But he's probably more concerned right now with getting the monkey off his back and winning the big game.

I agree with this, and I think next year will be very interesting for Manning after what had to be an incredibly disappointing finish.

These guys pretend that not winning the big one is no big deal, but I bet it burns Manning more than we can imagine.

I saw an NFL Films clip showing Steve Young at the end of the Super Bowl he finally won. He was grabbing at his back and yelling to his teammates "It ain't there no more! That monkey is off my back!" The mix of joy and relief was incredible, and it gave you a hint of how much not winning the SB had been grinding on him.

Manning's now in the same boat. And the longer he goes without an SB, the worse it's gonna get.

[Scott Campbell]

Manning's now in the same boat. And the longer he goes without an SB, the worse it's gonna get.

I think it's way worse than that for Manning. I have some friends from TN, and they argue that Peyton has never won a really big game in his life - going all the way back to his entire college career.

[chain_gang]

Manning's now in the same boat. And the longer he goes without an SB, the worse it's gonna get.

I think it's way worse than that for Manning. I have some friends from TN, and they argue that Peyton has never won a really big game in his life - going all the way back to his entire college career.

Totally agree Scott, I never remember seeing manning win a big game anywhere. It seems come crunch time whether it'd be a big game against Florida in college, or the playoffs against anyone. They figure out how to take him out of the game. They've been great during the regular season, but during the playoffs, I guess maybe because they have to face teams with a D or a choke job. I also don't think he'll win one as long as Dungy is coach. Tampa won one right after Dungy left. I think Dungy is great coach if you just want to make the playoffs every year, not win the Super Bowl.

[Noodle]

You know, I just refuse to buy this, "He can't win the big one," stuff, either about Manning or Dungy. I'm old enough to remember when everyone said that Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski just couldn't win it. Same was said about Tom Osborne at Nebraska, as well as Elway, though he had some epic wins in pretty big games before the SB.

I agree that Manning has an especially big monkey because of his hisotry at Tennessee and because of his run so far with Indy. But I'm not counting either Peyton or Dungy out until they call it quits.

[chain_gang]

True noodle, they also said the same thing about last years super bowl champion coach Bill Cowher. Never can count them out but it just seems to be a little pattern going on, and until they can prove it otherwise it'll remain a monkey on his back.

[MadtownPacker]

I saw an NFL Films clip showing Steve Young at the end of the Super Bowl he finally won. He was grabbing at his back and yelling to his teammates "It ain't there no more! That monkey is off my back!" The mix of joy and relief was incredible, and it gave you a hint of how much not winning the SB had been grinding on him.

Young was also referring to the shadow of Montana and his 4 SB rings that constantly was hung over Young's head. Manning is good but I dont think he will last 15 years. Hell the steelers almost finished his ass in that playoff game. Manning is useless once he has to move his feet. Throws some straight up ducks.

[Little Whiskey]

I think it's way worse than that for Manning.

imagine what Marino feels like. the guy went the the big show his rookie year, and never tasted it again. I think it has more to do with competition then with players or coaches, "not being able to win the big one". in marino's case he always played against the great bills teams, in order to get back to the sb. in Kelly's case he always played the awsome 49ers teams. Same thing with Manning, he has always ran into the patriots. this holds true for young and even favre. they ran into the cowboys